Scott Lloyd Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) It was inevitable, I suppose, but I learn today from my Google Alert news feed that there are two online petitions. They are a bit different. The one urges the Church to stop the practice of having the choir appear at inaugurals, especially Trump's. Apparently they also disapprove of the choir's appearance for inaugural events of five previous U.S. presidents including LBJ, Nixon, Reagan and both Bushes. The one pertaining to the Rockettes demands that the Madison Square Garden management not force any of the Rockettes to perform for the inauguration. It's a moot point, as none of the Rockettes had been required to do it in the first place. It's all voluntary, and there are more willing Rockette volunteers than there are slots to accommodate them. It would be the same with the choir, assuming arguendo that there are any members who would not want to participate in this opportunity. Only a portion of the choir's full membership complement can be accommodated on this trip. A side note: The person who launched the petition about the choir is a former president of Affirmation, so it appears there is some political baggage here. I also know that there is a certain segment of the populace that will sign just about anything that is put under their noses. I watched YouTube video a few days ago in which a couple of comedians were circulating a petition to ban the celebration of Christmas on a college campus. They were using all the mandatory buzz words, including creating a "safe space" for those who don't like Christmas. "Oh sure, I'll sign that." It was hilarious. In another one they were asking people if the surprise endorsement of Hillary Clinton by actor John Wayne had influenced their thinking. A surprising number were quite impressed and were apparently oblivious to the fact that John Wayne died in 1979. Edited December 24, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 2
Jeanne Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 This guy is just going to have to ask his family to sing and tap dance I guess. 3
Scott Lloyd Posted December 23, 2016 Author Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeanne said: This guy is just going to have to ask his family to sing and tap dance I guess. I just looked at a list of those who it is reported have declined. I don't think I'd cross the street to see any of them if you handed me free tickets. Edited December 23, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 4
Popular Post The Nehor Posted December 23, 2016 Popular Post Posted December 23, 2016 Online petitions, a method of protest just barely more effective than sitting and stewing at home about something. 15
cipriano Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 Well, this is embarrassing. The choir performing for Trump, not the online petitions. I like politics and religion to be far far apart. To quote one of the Desert Fathers (I can't remember which one): "Do not dwell with heretics, and do not have anything to do with rulers".
rodheadlee Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 Hmmmm but you have to take pics of a gay wedding if you're a photographer. 3
rodheadlee Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, cipriano said: Who forced you to be a photographer? Who forced them to be singers and dancers? Edited December 24, 2016 by rodheadlee 2
cipriano Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 Who forced who to be singers and dancers? I'm at a loss as to the equivalency you are drawing here.
Popular Post Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Popular Post Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, cipriano said: Well, this is embarrassing. The choir performing for Trump, not the online petitions. I like politics and religion to be far far apart. To quote one of the Desert Fathers (I can't remember which one): "Do not dwell with heretics, and do not have anything to do with rulers". It's not politics. It's service to country. And it's being an ambassador for the Church of Jesus Christ. And religion is a part of life. You don't get to require that it be sequestered away from society, as were the Desert Fathers you quote. Furthermore, you don't know the Tabernacle Choir if you think all they do is devotional music. A large part of their repertoire is secular: folk music, patriotic songs, classical music, show tunes, etc. First rule if you undertake to criticize someone or something: Know what you're talking about. Edited December 24, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 5
Popular Post carbon dioxide Posted December 24, 2016 Popular Post Posted December 24, 2016 I don't see the problem. I am sure the choir would have accepted an invitation if Clinton had won the nomination. This is an act that simply respects the process regardless of who wins. If the choir does not go to this inauguration, they should not go to any others in the future. 6
rodheadlee Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, cipriano said: Who forced who to be singers and dancers? I'm at a loss as to the equivalency you are drawing here. Nevermind.
Robert F. Smith Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 The high-kicking Radio City Rockettes ought to be there, along with the Sea.org Choir, the whole emceed by John Travolta (in place of P. T. Barnum) -- until His Nibs comes forth tap dancing and singing ("I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy") to claim his proper place as the President of the good ole USA. Hey, where's Busby Berkeley when we need him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bExPDU_6rc . MoTab? Not enough energy . . .
Thinking Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 A relative of mine is in the choir and I asked her today if she was going. She told me that 215 choir members will be able to go and will be chosen randomly. There are 400 singers in the choir and she said that about 100 of them have chosen not to go so she is hopeful that she is one of the 215. She didn't vote for Trump but she is excited about the opportunity to perform at a presidential inauguration. I think that those who lost the election are embarrassing themselves by trying to sabotage Trump's presidency before he even takes office. 4
Tacenda Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 http://www.ldsliving.com/Church-Responds-to-Backlash-After-the-Tabernacle-Choir-Announced-They-Will-Sing-at-the-Presidential-Inauguration/s/84098 This might have been posted on the other thread.
Duncan Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 Just now, Thinking said: A relative of mine is in the choir and I asked her today if she was going. She told me that 215 choir members will be able to go and will be chosen randomly. There are 400 singers in the choir and she said that about 100 of them have chosen not to go so she is hopeful that she is one of the 215. She didn't vote for Trump but she is excited about the opportunity to perform at a presidential inauguration. I think that those who lost the election are embarrassing themselves by trying to sabotage Trump's presidency before he even takes office. Sabotage?!!!!!!!!!!!! it's the Mormon Tabernacle Choir not the Beastie Boys, unless......................
cipriano Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: And religion is a part of life. You don't get to require that it be sequestered away from society, as were the Deseret Fathers you quote. I can't go live in pre-columbian Central America either. But I'm still going to read my Book of Mormon.
Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thinking said: A relative of mine is in the choir and I asked her today if she was going. She told me that 215 choir members will be able to go and will be chosen randomly. There are 400 singers in the choir and she said that about 100 of them have chosen not to go so she is hopeful that she is one of the 215. She didn't vote for Trump but she is excited about the opportunity to perform at a presidential inauguration. I think that those who lost the election are embarrassing themselves by trying to sabotage Trump's presidency before he even takes office. I voted for McMullin, so I don't have much of a dog in the fight, but it is unseemly when sore losers won't even make a pretense of decency and civility. At least Mrs. Clinton and Obama behaved with class after the election. And the petition signers demanding that the choir not do any inaugural at all? Give me a break! Where were they when the choir performed for the two Bushes and Reagan? Oh yeah, probably not even born yet. Well they're adults now. It's time for commensurate growth in maturity. Edited December 24, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 1
Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, cipriano said: I can't go live in pre-columbian Central America either. But I'm still going to read my Book of Mormon. This makes no sense at all. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 2 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: The high-kicking Radio City Rockettes ought to be there, along with the Sea.org Choir, the whole emceed by John Travolta (in place of P. T. Barnum) -- until His Nibs comes forth tap dancing and singing ("I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy") to claim his proper place as the President of the good ole USA. Hey, where's Busby Berkeley when we need him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bExPDU_6rc . MoTab? Not enough energy . . . You're showing your age, Bob. 1
cipriano Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 16 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: This makes no sense at all. YOU make no sense at all!
Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 3 hours ago, carbon dioxide said: I don't see the problem. I am sure the choir would have accepted an invitation if Clinton had won the nomination. This is an act that simply respects the process regardless of who wins. If the choir does not go to this inauguration, they should not go to any others in the future. A corollary is if they don't go to this one they shouldn't have gone to any in the past. I don't remember this ever being an issue in the past, even among those who were peeved that their guy lost. Have we raised a generation of cry babies?
Scott Lloyd Posted December 24, 2016 Author Posted December 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, cipriano said: YOU make no sense at all! Have you posted here before under another screen name? You are starting to seem familiar.
cipriano Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Have you posted here before under another screen name? You are starting to seem familiar. Nope, only one identity and I don't post here that often. My last post was meant as a dry joke. I hope it was received as such.
Yirgacheffe Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 3 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: The high-kicking Radio City Rockettes ought to be there, along with the Sea.org Choir, the whole emceed by John Travolta (in place of P. T. Barnum) -- until His Nibs comes forth tap dancing and singing ("I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy") to claim his proper place as the President of the good ole USA. Hey, where's Busby Berkeley when we need him? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bExPDU_6rc . MoTab? Not enough energy . . . And not enough sexy half naked or all the way naked women.
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