Would You Attend A Wedding For A SSM?

[Jeanne]

For those of you who have said no...no way..even if family...would you attend their funeral?  Seriously, I hope not.

[T-Shirt]

I am curious, how many here would attend a friend's or family member's wedding if it was a 45 year old man marrying a fifteen year old girl in a state where such a marriage was legal?

[cinepro]

It occurs to me that the issues being discussed in this thread aren't new.  For as long as there have been weddings, there have been people getting married to others to whom their parents or family strongly objected.  There have been weddings between people who lived very, very immoral lives beforehand, (and continued to live very immoral lives afterward).

And in all of these situations, people have had to decide how they are going to act.  The only difference with this particular situation is that I suspect some people might still be holding grudges from having lost the very public debate over SSM.

During the debate on SSM, I hated when people tried to make an analogy with the treatment of blacks in the Church, but the racist and doctrinally-based teachings of past Church leaders really does make it too easy sometimes.  It's not too hard to imagine similar discussions happening over whether or not to attend an inter-racial marriage, especially pre-1978.

[Mars]

2 minutes ago, cinepro said:

It occurs to me that the issues being discussed in this thread aren't new.  For as long as there have been weddings, there have been people getting married to others to whom their parents or family strongly objected.  There have been weddings between people who lived very, very immoral lives beforehand, (and continued to live very immoral lives afterward).

And in all of these situations, people have had to decide how they are going to act.  The only difference with this particular situation is that I suspect some people might still be holding grudges from having lost the very public debate over SSM.

During the debate on SSM, I hated when people tried to make an analogy with the treatment of blacks in the Church, but the racist and doctrinally-based teachings of past Church leaders really does make it too easy sometimes.  It's not too hard to imagine similar discussions happening over whether or not to attend an inter-racial marriage, especially pre-1978.

what? when has anyone ever written a book, musical, poem, movie, or play on the subject?

also.  "you only object because sour grapes?"  is that what you mean?

[consiglieri]

2 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Not standing for principle carries its own potential damage. 

And sometimes choosing church over family inflicts its own damage.

[consiglieri]

3 hours ago, smac97 said:

With respect, I decline to enter into substantive discussion with you.

Thanks,

-Smac

This is getting to be a habit with you.

 

[Jeanne]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Because your not being there may inflict more pain than your standing for principles mitigates.

You know..I don't know Scott personally..and perhaps I am not being fair.  But what I know of Scott on this board..hey, I would have been disappointed in him had he said "yes" to anything.  That being said, I try not to judge the feelings he has a right to have. 

Edited March 16, 2016 by Jeanne

[consiglieri]

10 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

For those of you who have said no...no way..even if family...would you attend their funeral?  Seriously, I hope not.

The LDS Church has made its control complete over members who choose the church over family.

It is made only more ironic in a church that ostensibly promotes the importance of the family.

But when the rubber meets the road, the church is more important than anything . . . including your loved ones.

It is a good lesson to remember.

[JulieM]

13 minutes ago, T-Shirt said:

I am curious, how many here would attend a friend's or family member's wedding if it was a 45 year old man marrying a fifteen year old girl in a state where such a marriage was legal?

Well, would this man already have multiple plural wives?

[USU78]

17 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

For those of you who have said no...no way..even if family...would you attend their funeral?  Seriously, I hope not.

Because? 

[strappinglad]

For the most part I don't attend very many weddings anyway. With the state of marriage today, I rather give a " Fifth Anniversary " gift when or if that milestone is reached. Too many shaky marriages .

Edited March 17, 2016 by strappinglad

[Jeanne]

8 minutes ago, USU78 said:

Because? 

Because ..it is a milestone in lives that may matter to the respondant..an event..wedding or funeral is a celebration of life.

[T-Shirt]

14 minutes ago, JulieM said:

Well, would this man already have multiple plural wives?

That wasn't the question.  But since you brought it up, would you?

[JulieM]

1 minute ago, T-Shirt said:

That wasn't the question.  But since you brought it up, would you?

Maybe.  I'd have to know more details.  But I would not decide against attending based solely on them being the same sex or it being a polygamous marriage.  I'd feel better about it if they were both consenting adults.  That's mainly what would make a difference.

[BlueDreams]

 

I am curious, how many here would attend a friend's or family member's wedding if it was a 45 year old man marrying a fifteen year old girl in a state where such a marriage was legal?

I wouldn't. someone asked to earlier if one would attend a polygamous marriage and I would attend that only if: it was consenting (between all involved), non-coercive, and everybody was above the age of 18. Situations between 15 and 45 year olds usually have some serious problems to begin with and it's not ok. I already have a problem with people who marry at 18. 

Marriage between 2 legal adults who are both choosing to do so is very different to me. 

 

With luv, 

bd

 

Edited March 16, 2016 by BlueDreams

[pogi]

I really like BlueDreams parallel and think it deserves a little more attention.  She said:

1 hour ago, BlueDreams said:

To me, a better parallel would be the scripture in Moroni 8 that says baptism of little children is solemn mockery unto the Lord and asking whether one would attend a Catholic baptism of someone's infant if invited to attend.

For those who would choose not to attend a gay marriage of a friend or family member, would you attend a friend or family member's Catholic baptism of an infant?

If so, how is it any different?

Edited March 16, 2016 by pogi

[USU78]

11 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

Because ..it is a milestone in lives that may matter to the respondant..an event..wedding or funeral is a celebration of life.

In my belief system SSM is a celebration of death. Spiritual death. It would take a G-d to resurrect the unrepentant celebrant of his own spiritual death

[Jeanne]

6 minutes ago, USU78 said:

In my belief system SSM is a celebration of death. Spiritual death. It would take a G-d to resurrect the unrepentant celebrant of his own spiritual death

Lack of charity and love is also a kind of spiritual death. 

[USU78]

4 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

Lack of charity and love is also a kind of spiritual death. 

Accuse me directly and without ambiguity if you mean to accuse. If not, then explain 

[USU78]

20 minutes ago, pogi said:

I really like BlueDreams parallel and think it deserves a little more attention.  She said:

For those who would choose not to attend a gay marriage of a friend or family member, would you attend a friend or family member's Catholic baptism of an infant?

If so, how is it any different?

See the post by me that follows yours

[Jeanne]

2 hours ago, ALarson said:

Maybe a better example would be if your son or daughter were having a child out of wedlock (living together rather than married), would you attend the birth or go to the hospital to see the baby?  Would you attend a baby shower for them? 

Yeah..same difference. 

[Jeanne]

7 minutes ago, USU78 said:

Accuse me directly and without ambiguity if you mean to accuse. If not, then explain 

NO..no.I am not accusing you..I didn't mean to do that.  Just having a hard time trying to understand the laws of God/human nature and trying to find your compromise..if any.  I apologize if I have offended you.  Should not have put it that way.  I have a stepson who is gay who lost his 7 year partner to suicide..so I just would give anything to attend his wedding. His happiness means so much to me and why would that offend God?

[strappinglad]

Not to put too fine a point on it , I have been to marriages of people who were fornicators or adulterers. I have been to marriages of people who ,even though it was in the temple, were less than honest in their recommend interview. I have been to marriages of people who were participants in illegal drugs. Yes, I know a few people who walk a different path than I . SSM is its own big problem , but it is all a matter of degree. I suppose one should draw the line somewhere. I even know of a marriage that was a complete fake , put on for appearances only for the parents sake .No legality at all. I didn't make it to that one. " here's your line " , to paraphrase a well known comedian.

Edited March 16, 2016 by strappinglad

[T-Shirt]

32 minutes ago, JulieM said:

Maybe.  I'd have to know more details.  But I would not decide against attending based solely on them being the same sex or it being a polygamous marriage.  I'd feel better about it if they were both consenting adults.  That's mainly what would make a difference.

So, it appears, your own personal perspective on what is moral is what you use to judge whether or not you would attend such a wedding, is that correct?  How is that any different than someone choosing to not attend a same sex wedding?

 

[USU78]

6 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

NO..no.I am not accusing you..I didn't mean to do that.  Just having a hard time trying to understand the laws of God/human nature and trying to find your compromise..if any.  I apologize if I have offended you.  Should not have put it that way.  I have a stepson who is gay who lost his 7 year partner to suicide..so I just would give anything to attend his wedding. His happiness means so much to me and why would that offend God?

The normalization of grossly immoral behavior is bad public policy.  Permitting one's self to be bullied into participating in and, by implication as set forth above, granting condonation of normalized grossly immoral behavior is cowardly, however (subjectively) well-intended, IMNSHO.