Avatar4321 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Browsing the book store and I came across the book visions of glory by John Pontius and I knew immediately it was lds related. I've never heard of this book before and I was wondering if anyone had some thoughts or knowledge of it.
smac97 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 A review of the book: http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/publications/spencers-visions-of-glory
Calm Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) I got a copy from my friend and have read much of it. Don't waste your money. http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/publications/spencers-visions-of-glory (smac beat me with the review) Edited July 21, 2015 by calmoriah 2
smac97 Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 A few more resources:http://ldsmag.com/article-1-13817/http://www.latterdayblog.com/my-thoughts-on-visions-of-glory-by-john-pontius.htmlhttp://latterdaycommentary.com/2013/01/13/visions-of-glory-and-the-last-days/http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/63730-visions-of-glory-nonsense-or-legit/http://hughvail.com/john-pontius-interview-with-spencer/Thanks, -Smac
Avatar4321 Posted July 21, 2015 Author Posted July 21, 2015 Wasn't planning to spend money on it. I was just curious. It was in the eastern religions area.
Calm Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Don't know why that would be except perhaps it is related as many out of the body experiences/NDEs. (The stories aren't credible, it sounds like he got his info on hospitals from some soap opera and he avoids giving dates and locations so that people could check his credibility) Edited July 21, 2015 by calmoriah
HappyJackWagon Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Awful! This is very popular in my area. People swear by it as if written by a prophet. They bear testimony of it. I'm not kidding. It's ridiculous. And interestingly they treat people who don't accept it as gospel as the 'unorthodox' ones 2
ksfisher Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Wasn't planning to spend money on it. I was just curious. It was in the eastern religions area. ...because Mormonism started in the eastern US? 1
Avatar4321 Posted July 21, 2015 Author Posted July 21, 2015 I read the introduction. It seemed to me that you don't need an anonymous source who had an anonymous go ahead by an anonymous apostle.Kind of shady imho
cinepro Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 ...because Mormonism started in the eastern US? Hahahahaha!
cinepro Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Browsing the book store and I came across the book visions of glory by John Pontius and I knew immediately it was lds related. I've never heard of this book before and I was wondering if anyone had some thoughts or knowledge of it. Instead of asking around, your best bet would be to read a few paragraphs from it (ask other "believers" in the book which passages they would recommend), and then kneel in prayer and seek a spiritual confirmation if it is true. That's really the only way to find out for sure. If you don't get an affirmative answer, keep praying and asking and studying until you do. It's also possible that you could feel a negative answer, but only because you weren't ready to accept the claims of the book had you been told it was true. So make sure when you ask you are really open to it being true.
HappyJackWagon Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 Instead of asking around, your best bet would be to read a few paragraphs from it (ask other "believers" in the book which passages they would recommend), and then kneel in prayer and seek a spiritual confirmation if it is true. That's really the only way to find out for sure. If you don't get an affirmative answer, keep praying and asking and studying until you do. It's also possible that you could feel a negative answer, but only because you weren't ready to accept the claims of the book had you been told it was true. So make sure when you ask you are really open to it being true.I see what you did there Honestly though, we would never take this approach with anything we didn't NEED to believe.
ksfisher Posted July 21, 2015 Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Instead of asking around, your best bet would be to read a few paragraphs from it (ask other "believers" in the book which passages they would recommend), and then kneel in prayer and seek a spiritual confirmation if it is true. That's really the only way to find out for sure. If you don't get an affirmative answer, keep praying and asking and studying until you do. It's also possible that you could feel a negative answer, but only because you weren't ready to accept the claims of the book had you been told it was true. So make sure when you ask you are really open to it being true. Does the author of the book promise that you will receive such an answer? (I guess I could read the book to find out, but I would hate for my opinion of it to be prejudiced by actually having read the book.) Edited July 21, 2015 by ksfisher
Gillebre Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 I've read it several times. I believe it's great as a thought provoking work. Treat it like anything else you might read. Get whatever light you can and let God teach you whatever He has in mind. We have so much to learn. I enjoyed reading it, but I don't recommend it as something it's not. Whether or not you believe the accounts as presented is less important than any insights you might receive through pondering and consideration. My salvation doesn't hang on it's accuracy, but I did appreciate it nonetheless.
The Nehor Posted July 22, 2015 Posted July 22, 2015 I've read it several times. I believe it's great as a thought provoking work. Treat it like anything else you might read. Get whatever light you can and let God teach you whatever He has in mind. We have so much to learn. I enjoyed reading it, but I don't recommend it as something it's not. Whether or not you believe the accounts as presented is less important than any insights you might receive through pondering and consideration. My salvation doesn't hang on it's accuracy, but I did appreciate it nonetheless.I found it more along the lines of mindless drivel. It makes the Left Behind series look spiritually fulfilling. 1
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