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You guys are probably so sick of me..but really, I have a good reason to ask not only what you might know, but what you think.

 

Several years ago, I had friends die in an airplane crash..who were friends with eachother and we did not find their plane for several months.  My question is do you think when their spirits left their bodies that they communicated with eachother?  The same goes for families who are maybe in car crashes or something.  I have always pondered this as I have hoped that their friendship and maybe even their journey to the spirit world are shared.

 

Thanks for putting up with Jeanne.

 

 

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You guys are probably so sick of me..but really, I have a good reason to ask not only what you might know, but what you think.

 

Several years ago, I had friends die in an airplane crash..who were friends with eachother and we did not find their plane for several months.  My question is do you think when their spirits left their bodies that they communicated with eachother?  The same goes for families who are maybe in car crashes or something.  I have always pondered this as I have hoped that their friendship and maybe even their journey to the spirit world are shared.

 

Thanks for putting up with Jeanne.

Since all when they die, "their spirits are taken home to that God which gave them life". I would say no, birth and death are singular events, even if the events is shared.
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Counter to what Pa pa says, I believe that friendships and associations are maintained beyond the grave. Doctrine and Covenants says that the society of heaven is much like the society enjoyed in this world, but more pure.

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I think it's a possibility. I've yet to hear of any NDEs where people communicated with each other as they were leaving their bodies so I can't say it happens right away, but we know people see loved ones at some point. Other than that I don't know if we know anything more.

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Thanks everyone for your comments.  Varied answers tell me that other than the D & C, there are really no concrete answers that are obsolete.  You know, I was thinking that even if you could travel with a spirit to the next realm, it would be sad, too, to have to separate at one point. 

 

Thanks ...I have been working so I haven't had a chance to check in till now.

 

Jeanne

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Hello Jeanne, your comments and questions are appreciated.  Please don't worry about things that have no basis in reality.

 

You are asking a question that has no communally, i.e. publicly known, teaching.  We know that we have spirits.  We know that our soul is the union of both spirit and physical body. We know that we die. We know that spirits see and recognize one another; they work in tandem; they appear to function in social structures similar to what we experience here on earth.  We also know that our spirits commune with the Spirit and there are certainly many examples of mortals interacting with many different spirits, angels, or celestial beings.

 

Your question is rather unique in that you are seeking to understand if multiple spirits talk or communicate with one another if they all were killed at the same time.  It is a very precise question.  My first question would be why would they communicate with one another?  I see death as a transition between one existence and the next that is as natural as the sun shining and as easy a leaf being blown by the wind. There is no effort on our part; we simply move from one existence to the next.  

 

I would expect that there is much communication upon arrival; not only with each other, but with many others that have missed them and seek to welcome them home.   

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Counter to what Pa pa says, I believe that friendships and associations are maintained beyond the grave. Doctrine and Covenants says that the society of heaven is much like the society enjoyed in this world, but more pure.

I was only speaking to her question, does the shared event bind them together...to this I said no. We can engage in covenants that will bid us together forever.

Maybe I misread her question? :(

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Thanks everyone.  And yes, it was kind of a difficult question for which most of you really helped.  I thought maybe BY or JS might have had a thought written down on this.  We must remember that the Savior upon the cross spoke to the person next to Him and said:  Today Thou Shalt be with me in Paradise".  (I hope I am correct on that). 

 

In any case, thanks so much for trying to help me understand things.  I just thought it would at the split moment your spirit leaves the body that you would recognize your companions leaving also.

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There are a few Bible scriptures that suggest we will know and associate with our friends and loved ones in the next life.

In Genesis we read:

"Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people" (Genesis 25: 8 .

 

The phrase "gathered to his people", sounds like he went to a place in heaven where there were people who knew him.

 

When David's child died, in his mourning he said:

"But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." (2 Sam. 12:23)

 

Daniel expected to be able to go to his child when he dies, which of course means he will recognize him when he sees him in heaven.

 

Paul speaks of “the whole family in heaven and earth” (Ephesians 3:15). If we are a family in heaven I assume we will know each other as family members know each other here on earth.

 

In the parable of the rich man and the beggar(named Lazarus); after both died, the rich man certainly knew and recognized Lazarus as he look up from Hell and saw him with Abraham in heaven. (Luke 16:19-25)

 

Of course this was just a parable, but I don't think Jesus would just make something up like this if it could not be true.

While there may not be many Bible scriptures that suggest we will know and associate with each other there, there certainly aren't any that say we won't.

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Perhaps this will interest you:

 

President J. Smith Addressed the assembly of the saints at the temple of the Lord upon the subject of the saints death burial & resurrection of the saints. He had been requested to preach a funeral sermon by several persons who had died lost friends & he had Just Received information that Elder Lorenzo Barnes had died in England we received this information by a letter from Elder P. P. Pratt. After reading the letter he addressed the assembly in a vary feeling interesting & edefying manner among many other remarks he said he should have been more reconciled to the death of Elder barnes Could his bodey have been laid in the grave in Nauvoo or among the Saints, he said he had vary peculiar feelings relative to recieving an honorable burial with his father 12 he Considered Nauvoo would be a burying place of the Saints & Should he die he considered it would be a great Blessing to be buried with the saints & esspecially to be buried with his father yes he wanted to lie by the side of his father that when the trump of God should sound & the voice of God should say ye Saints arise that when the tomb should birst he could arise from the grave & first salute his father & say O my father! & his father say O my son!! as they took each other by the hand he wished next to salute his brothers & sisters & then the Saints & he said it was upon this principle that the ancients were so particular to have an honorable burial with their fathers as in the case of Joseph, before his death he made his kindred promise to carry his bones to the land of Canann & they did so they embalmed his body took it to the land of Canaan & buryed it with his fathers their is a glory in this that many do not comprehend. It is true that in the resurrection that the bodies will be caught up to meet the Lord & the Saints will all be brought together though they were scattered upon the face of the whole earth yet they would not as readily salute each other as though they lay down & rose up together from the same bed, To bring it to the understanding it would be upon the same principle as though two who were vary friends indeed should lie down upon the same bed at night locked in each other embrace talking of their love & should awake in the morning together they could immediately renew their conversation of love even while rising from their bed but if they were alone & in seperate apartments they could not as readily salute each other as though they were together He remarked that should he live & have an opportunity of gathering his friends who had died together he intended to do it but if he should not live to do it himself he hoped that some of his frie friends would. He wished all of the saints to be comforted with the victory they were to gain by the resurrection it is sufficient to encorage the saint to overcome in the midst of evry trial trouble & tribulation though thunders roar & earthquakes bellow, lightnings flash & wars are upon evry hand yet suffer not a joint to tremble nor let not your heart faint for the great Eloheem will deliver you & if not before the resurrection will set you eternally free from all these things from pain sorrow & death. I have labored hard & sought evry way to try to prepare this people to comprehend the things that God is unfolding to me In speaking of the resurrection I would say that God hath shown unto me a vission of the resurrection of the dead & I saw the graves open & the saints as they arose took each other by the hand even before they got up or while getting up & great Joy & glory rested upon them.

 

http://rsc.byu.edu/es/archived/words-joseph-smith-contemporary-accounts-nauvoo-discourses-prophet-joseph/1843

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Perhaps Doctrine & Covenants 130:2 contains part of the answer to your question.

 

FWIW*

 

 

*"FWIW" © Kevin Christensen, all rights reserved, used by permission. ;):D

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You guys are probably so sick of me..but really, I have a good reason to ask not only what you might know, but what you think.

 

Several years ago, I had friends die in an airplane crash..who were friends with eachother and we did not find their plane for several months.  My question is do you think when their spirits left their bodies that they communicated with eachother?  The same goes for families who are maybe in car crashes or something.  I have always pondered this as I have hoped that their friendship and maybe even their journey to the spirit world are shared.

 

Thanks for putting up with Jeanne.

Heckyeah.

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