Tacenda Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Why should her "story" and/or experience be rejected and yet a vision in grove by a 14 year old boy readily be accepted? Tacenda, sorry to hear about your father-in-law. Many hugs...JeanneThanks Jeanne! He's going home to be on hospice care, I guess he isn't going to get better, it's his heart, it's too far gone. I guess I shouldn't discount Julie's vision. But it sure is sounding scary, without reading her book or story, I hear something about tents or something? It was funny at the hospital while talking with my nephew on my husband's side, my mother in law said, "Oh, I thought we were supposed to go to Missouri". I'll have to read more about Julie and see what this tent business means.
KL03 Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 hello, i am trying to decide if sister rowe had a real vision and if so it is quite remarkable . my 7 children are divided on the subject and i am not yet committed either way. i have tried e mailing to her but no reply but i am sure she is busy. nothing online that i see offers anything against her or i would say an opposing view on the matter. i do question her saying the church is purchasing tents for the coming gathering and preparing places of refuge.i went to the church website and thru feedback asked if tents were being prepared as she stated, also i looked around the website. i found the church does obtain tents but for the disasters as needed not for the gathering as she says, so far. the church rep for the church response team said he does not know of any such preparation of tents as sister rowe claims and also said she has no right to say such things which is the leaders job. now this may be as far as the rep knows and what he says may be opinion. so what do you think? also i wonder what her bishops take is on all this as i think that could speak volumes. has anyone heard on this matter of the bishop or the church for that matter? i will talk to my bishop on this and i will soon come to the answer. yes i have prayed and so far this is the path i seem to be on now. my family is affected by this and so i will find what is the truth. for the most part all our lives are proceeding as usual none of my children are doing anything extreme but are more focused on prepping, i myself will do what i can but my resources are very limited so i just do what i can do. i really dont worry about myself i will just follow the prophet and the spirit. would like some opposing views on her to help weigh this matter. ive always liked movies on end of the world stuff, you know road warrior, deep impact etc. trouble is im a little lame due to motorcycle accidents and bouncing off cars. bummer. as a side note all our blessing seem to address end of the world matters so that makes this all the more involving in a way. all my kids are promised safety when the destructions come and know this. thanks for any help and email me if you can, i hope i dont make trouble and if so i apologize.Maudieb, 1 Nephi 15:1-8 recently stood out to me in response to your post. I hope it helps...
Tacenda Posted March 8, 2015 Posted March 8, 2015 I thought no-one knows the time or day Jesus will return. Julie is putting into heads that it is near and to get ready now. So I guess the youth just think why school or the older people think why build a house or so many other things. Instead it's prepare, get tents and food supplies maybe she mentions guns and ammo, not sure.. I listened to her interview with Mills Crenshaw, he's a believer, like I'm guessing a lot of LDS are. Recently she spoke in St. George and mentioned she'll be telling it all in a book or something (she never does, and always says it's not time or she's not allowed to speak on a certain subject). Like someone said on another board that attended or listened, if she really isn't out for money why not put it on a PDF for all to see for free.
cjtobler Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 I have read both of Julie Rowe's books and heard several of her radio interviews. I've always been fascinated by people's near death experiences. I attended her event in St. George, Utah on Saturday, March 7, 2015. I have since deleted both her books from my Kindle. She rambled on for over an hour and said absolutely nothing!! Evidently she was rattled by some criticism she had received within the past few days. The audience was very polite during her entire talk, but everyone was obviously disappointed. Many people had traveled long distances to hear her speak. She kept asking, "Why are you here?" Believe me, many of us were asking ourselves the same question. It truly was sad and embarrassing. Here is an important quote from President Harold B. Lee: "Those who undertake a study of the last days should use the scriptures as their primary source." President Lee suggested the 24th Chapter of Matthew--particularly the inspired version as contained in the Pearl of Great Price. Then read the 45th section of the D&C where the Lord, not man, has documented the signs of the times. Now turn to section 101 and section 133 of the D&C and hear the step-by-step recounting of the events leading up to the coming of the Savior. He also suggested D&C section 38. "These are some of the writings with which you should concern yourselves, rather than commentaries that may come from those whose information may not be the most reliable and whose motives may be subject to question." (Conference Report, Oct. 1972, p. 128; or Ensign, Jan. 1973, p. 106.) I really believe Julie Rowe's motives may be subject to question. The Lord has a spokesman, and we know who he is.
Calm Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 "Evidently she was rattled by some criticism she had received within the past few days"Her last two engagements had been scheduled to be held in church buildings. One was cancelled completely, the other was switched to a publicconvention center iirc.Perhaps the discussion that occurred when she was informed she could no longer speak at church venues is what troubled her.
pennypep Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No one has a right to judge anyone that's had near death experience unless you have had one of your own, and then you would never dismiss it. I had a near death and I only remember the beginning of the end. I don't know what happened in between.I had a blessings and and I was told that everything would be revealed to me in the near future,I'm not sure when that will be but i know it will happen. In acts 2-17 : And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith , I will out of my spirit upon all flesh and in yours sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream, dreams. Who's to say what Julie wrote about in her books no one can prove it what she wrote isn't true.
pennypep Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 I do not know much about Sister Rowe. What I do know is that the official church position on gathering has been for many years to gather in local stakes. Not buying a lot of tents for some trek somewhere. (Not that church unites don't have tents for camps and for disaster preparedness. And the Lord reveals information to us through prophets, not through individuals who have no stewardship over anyone but their own families. No way Sister Rowe's visions of any kind can be seen as something the rest of us should act on.Yes there are camps that we are going to go to Iv have no that fact ever since I was a young girl. also you should read Acts 2-17
pennypep Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 If anyone doubts near death experiences go read Acts 2-17
bluebell Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No one has a right to judge anyone that's had near death experience unless you have had one of your own, and then you would never dismiss it. I had a near death and I only remember the beginning of the end. I don't know what happened in between.I had a blessings and and I was told that everything would be revealed to me in the near future,I'm not sure when that will be but i know it will happen.In acts 2-17 : And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith , I will out of my spirit upon all flesh and in yours sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream, dreams. Who's to say what Julie wrote about in her books no one can prove it what she wrote isn't true.If someone publishes a book, or otherwise wants people to do what they say based on things they learned during an NDE then we absolutely have the right to judge. At that point it's actually an obligation to do so.
pennypep Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 If someone publishes a book, or otherwise wants people to do what they say based on things they learned during an NDE then we absolutely have the right to judge.At that point it's actually an obligation to do so.Have you had a near death experience? then you can judge
pennypep Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No one has to do what Julies says in her books. It was for Julies and and for her family and any others who wish to listen. I suggest you get the book Visions of Glory by John Pontius. In his visions he also talks about people going to camps.
bluebell Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Have you had a near death experience? then you can judgeThis makes no sense whatsoever.
bluebell Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No one has to do what Julies says in her books. It was for Julies and and for her family and any others who wish to listen. I suggest you get the book Visions of Glory by John Pontius. In his visions he also talks about people going to camps.If the Lord has a message for the saints, He won't send it thru Julie or john, no disrespect to them intended. 3
Tacenda Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 No one has to do what Julies says in her books. It was for Julies and and for her family and any others who wish to listen. I suggest you get the book Visions of Glory by John Pontius. In his visions he also talks about people going to camps.If it's so important for mankind, have her or him put it on a pdf file and share, don't charge money. 1
juliann Posted March 23, 2015 Posted March 23, 2015 Have you had a near death experience? then you can judge Reading those books is a near death experience. There are a few threads on the board if you are interested in the contradictions, errors, and impossibilities in Spencer's book (he has been outed, BTW.) I do have to give Rowe credit for not hiding. But I was very encouraged to see that she had been prevented from using the St. George Tabernacle for her book tour. 3
Popular Post Jeanne Posted March 24, 2015 Popular Post Posted March 24, 2015 I was very intriqued to find out more about Julie rowe when she was mentioned here. I have always been fascinated with life after death and NDEs. I did a dumb thing and ordered her book on Amazon...shoot..I was so disappointed. I am not saying that she did not experience these things..it is just I felt like I was in Sunday School and she was just taking me through the Bible stories..there wasn' really anything super personal or distinct about her experience. Just my 02 Cents worth..but like Tacienda, if it is a true experience that is supposed to be shared..there should be no $$$ signs there. 5
Tacenda Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I was very intriqued to find out more about Julie rowe when she was mentioned here. I have always been fascinated with life after death and NDEs. I did a dumb thing and ordered her book on Amazon...shoot..I was so disappointed. I am not saying that she did not experience these things..it is just I felt like I was in Sunday School and she was just taking me through the Bible stories..there wasn' really anything super personal or distinct about her experience. Just my 02 Cents worth..but like Tacienda, if it is a true experience that is supposed to be shared..there should be no $$$ signs there.I listened to a radio interview with her and it was like she was holding out a carrot for people. She kept saying she couldn't discuss certain things at this time. Apparently it wasn't the right time, it bothered me. I've heard the same thing about her book, just a lot of regurgitated Sunday School lessons. I too love NDE's, read several books right after my parents passed away.
Kenngo1969 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) If the Lord has a message for the saints, He won't send it thru Julie or john, no disrespect to them intended.President Monson must feel like the Maytag repairman, with all of these revelations everyone else is getting that are intended for the world! (Julie Rowe, John Pontius, Chris Nemelka ...) Edited March 25, 2015 by Kenngo1969
Kenngo1969 Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I too love NDE's, read several books right after my parents passed away.There is a life to come. Of that, I am as certain of anyone who has not yet had a vision of that life can be.
Ryane2020 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 I think what she has said should be taken into account, honestly I am completely on board with getting myself and my family ready for what is to come, its a better safe than sorry thing, and even if it doesn't come to pass ill have peace of mind knowing the my family is set for food storage, and security.
Tacenda Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Looks like the church might be on board too, she's speaking at several churches apparently.http://woodyoubelieveit.blogspot.com/2015/01/notes-on-julie-rowes-conference.html?m=1
Calm Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) Not really, I've seen several cancelations of church venues for her, this is from back in January, have you seen any current ones?She seems to be more into her energy work now for which she is paid outright for talking on a phone apparently. Edited August 3, 2015 by calmoriah
Guest Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Not necessarily. There may be value in sharing it, for others who might benefit (assuming it's true), or for her to even appreciate it better by talking about it. If people never shared their visions, the scriptures would have a lot of missing sections. This all sounds like "visions" that pop up that support both the ideas a business that Roger K Young has been proclaiming for years, that support his book of quote mining of Church leaders and his business that he created to sell "tents, tent supplies, food, seed products" and so forth that grow his business. I had a friend who had such a vision after reading his books...I say had, because when he wanted me to read other books beyond the first and I did not express an interest, and questioned his vision, he no longer wanted to be my friend.
Tacenda Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 The church is distancing itself from Julie. I wonder what she'll do now. Hopefully the apocalypse in September won't discredit the church now. http://kutv.com/news/local/lds-church-flags-members-book-about-latter-day-calamities-as-potential-misleading
Calm Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) "My story is not intended to be authoritative nor to create any church doctrine."Unfortunately when she writes extensive expansions on scriptural people. When she was told she needed to beef up her book, she added 10 iircpages just about Joseph of Egypt which was then pared down and the response is people want her to give more about all she has learned about these men, the flood, dinosaurs.If she is adding details to scripture stories and people are taking them as filling in the gaps of the record, this is essentially creating new scripture which is equivalent imo to creating new doctrine.She conveniently ignores the comment about distorting, getting what is known doctrine wrong.She keeps saying it is her personal story, but she knows and promotes people acting on it as facts. She doesn't state the energy healing worked for her so you might want to try it, she says it is a revelation from God for all mankind. How is that not creating doctrine? Edited September 11, 2015 by Calm 1
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