Storm Rider Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 If someone is going to dress a body they should spend a few moments with the mortician for guidance and directions. As stated above, opening the back of garments and wrapping the clothing around the individual is done to simply the process and no one ever knows. There are a few others. The hardest is dressing small children and babies; there is nothing that makes that easier.
AndyDnom Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 im in the opposite situation. i'm trying to figure out how i can make sure my family doesn't go against my wishes and put me in temple clothes if i die. Why does the church worry about clothes you're wearing, or speak aganist cremation? My mom says it will make you easier to ressurect. But... a body decomposes into dust, right? how is that better than ashes?
Storm Rider Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 im in the opposite situation. i'm trying to figure out how i can make sure my family doesn't go against my wishes and put me in temple clothes if i die. Why does the church worry about clothes you're wearing, or speak aganist cremation? My mom says it will make you easier to ressurect. But... a body decomposes into dust, right? how is that better than ashes? Andy, the Church does dictate what you wear at wear after death. My personal opinion, narrow minded as it is, is that my covenants are written in my heart and are indelibly linked to my being. Wearing temple clothing after death has nothing to do with my salvation, my relationship with our Father, or my resurrection. It may best benefit those who remain alive. I guess I would ask you why it matters what you wear after death? I frankly don't really care what the Church has to say about cremation; is someone wants to be cremated, then cremate them. If you prefer cremation, then write your will that way and tell your family members those are your wishes. Alternatively, if it makes your family happy, what do you care what they do with you body? The one thing on this topic of which I am certain, the power of the resurrection has nothing to do with what clothes you are wearing in the grave. 1
Tacenda Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Neither would the government.I've told my family and marked my license...donate my organs where possible, send my brain to be used for research on RLS (if they are still asking for them), let med students play with the rest and burn the remains once everyone is through. I am not particularly fond of my body these days and have no sentimental attachement to it now...never had much of one ever in fact.This is so what I want to do too. I'm already a donor but this is much more, I don't want my family spending a fortune on my burial, cremation sounds good to me, when they, whomever, are finished with me
Scott Lloyd Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Andy, the Church does dictate what you wear at wear after death. My personal opinion, narrow minded as it is, is that my covenants are written in my heart and are indelibly linked to my being. Wearing temple clothing after death has nothing to do with my salvation, my relationship with our Father, or my resurrection. It may best benefit those who remain alive.As the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band sang in the early 1970s: Gravestones cheer the living, dear, they're no use to the dead. I guess I would ask you why it matters what you wear after death? I frankly don't really care what the Church has to say about cremation; is someone wants to be cremated, then cremate them. If you prefer cremation, then write your will that way and tell your family members those are your wishes. Alternatively, if it makes your family happy, what do you care what they do with you body? The one thing on this topic of which I am certain, the power of the resurrection has nothing to do with what clothes you are wearing in the grave. Rather than blithely dismissing them, I think one ought to try to ascertain the reason why the Church takes positions on things. These are, after all, inspired leaders. 1
theplains Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 I frankly don't really care what the Church has to say about cremation; is someone wants to be cremated, then cremate them. According to Handbook 2 - Administering the Church, "The Church does not normally encourage cremation. The family of the deceased must decide whether the body should be cremated, taking into account any laws governing burial or cremation. In some countries, the law requires cremation.Where possible, the body of a deceased member who has been endowed should be dressed in temple clothing when it is cremated". Regards,Jim
Stargazer Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Sounds like the stiff and gnarled fingers of bureaucratic policy reaching out and snatching common sense and compassion. Yes, and though I sympathize with the sister's dilemma, the clerk isn't supposed to make exceptions to rules -- it's not her authority! To start with, how does she know that the woman making the claim of a dead husband is telling the truth? How does the clerk know that the ceremonial clothing isn't going to end up being worn by one of the Street Screechers at the next General Conference? It might have been a good idea for the clerk to have had her supervisor make the explanations, but in the end, the Bishop is the person to apply to in order to take care of getting what is necessary. As has been mentioned, it is sufficient for the ceremonial clothing to be laid in the casket with the body, without it being clothed in it, so in that event anyone with the requisite clothing available could donate it to this sister, and she could reimburse them for the replacement. As has also been mentioned, wards are asked to keep such clothing available for cases like this. In harsh situations, sometimes people can get a severe case of tunnel vision and do not see clear alternatives that might be available. Edited November 27, 2013 by Stargazer
Stargazer Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Andy, the Church does dictate what you wear at wear after death. My personal opinion, narrow minded as it is, is that my covenants are written in my heart and are indelibly linked to my being. Wearing temple clothing after death has nothing to do with my salvation, my relationship with our Father, or my resurrection. It may best benefit those who remain alive. I guess I would ask you why it matters what you wear after death? I frankly don't really care what the Church has to say about cremation; is someone wants to be cremated, then cremate them. If you prefer cremation, then write your will that way and tell your family members those are your wishes. Alternatively, if it makes your family happy, what do you care what they do with you body? The one thing on this topic of which I am certain, the power of the resurrection has nothing to do with what clothes you are wearing in the grave. The Church does not dictate this. The Church asks that, if possible, the body be buried with or cremated in temple clothing. I don't see that as dictating, Storm. And of course the resurrection and salvation does not depend upon what you wear after death. But why does this request bother you so much? I treasure my endowment and the blessings I may expect that are predicated upon faithfulness to my covenants; the temple clothing are in fact an outward symbol of those covenants. Why would I not want to be buried (or cremated) in it? I think it is unwise to disregard what the Church requests.
mfbukowski Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Well at least when we resurrect in temple robes, everyone will know who we are. 1
strappinglad Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 How does the saying go? If/when we arrive in heaven, we will be surprised who else is there. There will be quite a few who will be surprised to see US there,... robes or no robes !
Tacenda Posted November 30, 2013 Posted November 30, 2013 How does the saying go? If/when we arrive in heaven, we will be surprised who else is there. There will be quite a few who will be surprised to see US there,... robes or no robes !Just caught the last of "Ghost" with Patrick Swayze, I forgot what happened to the bad guys in this movie, we need more movies like this. People would think twice before hurting someone.
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