Damien the Leper Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 You are not LDS? As one who lived their whole live as Not Mormon, I can say with some authority that life under the covenants is better. I'm not anymore. This is a matter of taste. There is nothing covenantal about having tats. There is no official commandment.
Damien the Leper Posted September 30, 2013 Author Posted September 30, 2013 I'll admit that if I didn't already believe getting tattoos is wrong, I'd probably get some. Heck, I'd probably have a few already. I saw a guy with super hero tattoo sleeves. It looked good.
Garden Girl Posted September 30, 2013 Posted September 30, 2013 I'm not anymore. This is a matter of taste. There is nothing covenantal about having tats. There is no official commandment.The other day I was watching the TV program "What Not to Wear." People write in about someone they'd like to have an "intervention" and updating, and the host couple help them pick out clothing, get hair and makeup, etc... Anyway, last week they had this gal that was rather frumpy but still younger, like early thirties... So they had her put on a new outfit, a nice sleeveless dress that was very flattering to her... so she comes walking out and... whoa!... she has tattoos up her arms in a modified "sleeve" that wasn't as many or total covering. Nevertheless, it was still very distracting and actually clashed with her dress. Also, she had tattoos on her chest that showed above the neckline of several outfits she tried on. It was not attractive... So she got all dressed up to go display the "new" her at a party for friends and family at a restaurant... she wore a classy dress. and heels... but there she was with these tattoos all over her, including her lower leg, that didn't match the "look" she was going for.. classy, professional junior exec. All because of the @*%#**&@ tattoos... GG
Calm Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 My problem is that I would be bored with them in about a month or so. I'd rather have nothing to look at then the same thing day after day...especially if it gets elaborate as the most beautiful ones are.
EllenMaksoud Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I'll admit that if I didn't already believe getting tattoos is wrong, I'd probably get some. Heck, I'd probably have a few already.Right before I met the Sisters, I was looking for someone to give me a snake brand on my left hip. I did not get one and to do so now, having known the wisdom would be an absolute affront to Heavenly Father.
altersteve Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) IF I didn't agree that having a tattoo would offend our Father in Heaven and our Savior (and still believed in the gospel), I would probably have a tattoo sleeve on one arm, a scripture or song lyric that means something special to me on the opposite forearm, "Latter-day Saint" across my upper back, and (when I get married) my wedding anniversary on my left ring finger under my wedding ring. Edited October 1, 2013 by altersteve 1
Storm Rider Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I am not sure how much tattoos may or may not offend our Father in Heaven, I have always felt they would offend my own parents. My daughter got some tattoos and I let her know that such an action was disappointing, but it is a very brief conversation and we have only talked about it a few times since. What I told her was her body did not belong to her, much to the chagrin of those who proclaim it is "their" body and they can do with it as they choose, but that her body was a reflection of two things, 1) God's love for all of his children, and 2) the love of her parents for her. She had an obligation to honor her body as the gift it is. Now, having said that, I will say that I have seen some wonderful ink in my day. I think I understand some of the motivation that people describe for getting a tattoo(s). However, when the meaning of the tattoos is personal, I am not sure a tattoo for the world to see is the best way to commemorate something personal. Val, some of the images you have chosen are a bit strange for someone with an LDS background. Do these tattoos indicate a complete break from that foundation or something else?
Tacenda Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I can relate, both of my daughters have tattoos, one has my dad's name clear across her back with his birthdate/deathdate. She's a unique individual! Other daughter has patriotic stars on top of her one foot, the bad thing is she got a job with the church and has to keep it covered, plus she has to wear a dress everyday, kind of difficult to hide when wearing women's dress shoes. It's such the rage to get these tats now. I'm conflicted about them. Oh, and btw Ellen, they aren't active LDS. But recently there was a LDS convert girl, really pretty, that had a tat sleeve, and mormons were sure praising her and against judging people who have them, on social media.
Storm Rider Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Our daughter has two large stars on her hips, either side of her stomach; then there is a verse from the D&C on her side; the heart on the inside of her lip; I think, I pray that is all she felt she needed. It was a phase she went through and felt she could not stop, but did not absolutely crazy getting them. She is a very independent young lady; she takes after my wife. Incidentally, she hates the priesthood. She one particularly poor bishop in college and that cooked it for her. I have tried to talk about all of the good examples of leaders she has known, but that one bad one overwhelms everything/one else. Our son is a very straight arrow. He is just naturally drawn to spiritual things and enjoys choosing the right without being judgmental. When I grow up some day I want to be like him. 1
thesometimesaint Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Tatoos are not permissibe. How does this make its way to Mormon dialogue? I don't have a problem with some tat's, like to cover a scare, or birth mark. A small discrete one in a place not seen by the public? Not my choice, but I don't really object.
DarkScythe Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 if you go tattoo sleeves, go Sith. There is nothing wrong in freaking people out with Sith Tattoos done in the Sith Language. 2
Garden Girl Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 IF I didn't agree that having a tattoo would offend our Father in Heaven and our Savior (and still believed in the gospel), I would probably have a tattoo sleeve on one arm, a scripture or song lyric that means something special to me on the opposite forearm, "Latter-day Saint" across my upper back, and (when I get married) my wedding anniversary on my left ring finger under my wedding ring.Really?? GG
Damien the Leper Posted October 1, 2013 Author Posted October 1, 2013 I am not sure how much tattoos may or may not offend our Father in Heaven, I have always felt they would offend my own parents. My daughter got some tattoos and I let her know that such an action was disappointing, but it is a very brief conversation and we have only talked about it a few times since. What I told her was her body did not belong to her, much to the chagrin of those who proclaim it is "their" body and they can do with it as they choose, but that her body was a reflection of two things, 1) God's love for all of his children, and 2) the love of her parents for her. She had an obligation to honor her body as the gift it is. Now, having said that, I will say that I have seen some wonderful ink in my day. I think I understand some of the motivation that people describe for getting a tattoo(s). However, when the meaning of the tattoos is personal, I am not sure a tattoo for the world to see is the best way to commemorate something personal. Val, some of the images you have chosen are a bit strange for someone with an LDS background. Do these tattoos indicate a complete break from that foundation or something else? The meaning of the tattoos is near and dear to my heart. In many ways over the last 15 years I have felt as though I have been in Hell. The Hell I have ascribed to has been one to please others and do what is considered socially normal and acceptable. To be a mere speck in the ranks of blue collared, oligarchy, moral elitists, and institutional oppression. The tattoos describe those demons and hellhounds that have tried to keep me in place. However, I choose to rise above the trivial and mundane life such persons and institutions would have me be enslaved to. I refuse to bow down and be a peasant or meat puppet.
Damien the Leper Posted October 1, 2013 Author Posted October 1, 2013 if you go tattoo sleeves, go Sith. There is nothing wrong in freaking people out with Sith Tattoos done in the Sith Language. Rejoicing in evil can be fun...
altersteve Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Really?? GG Yes. I was just talking to a friend last week, actually, about what and how many tattoos we'd get if we didn't believe it was sinful to do so and still believed in the gospel. But that won't happen.
Calm Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 I think the only one I am even tempted to get is a substitute for wearing a wedding ring (I finally stopped wearing mine because I'd take it off in my sleep and other times without thinking.
DarkScythe Posted October 1, 2013 Posted October 1, 2013 Rejoicing in evil can be fun... Most people would be surprised how easy becoming a Sith or at least understanding or agreeing with their philosophy. it would be interesting to screw with people's heads to have John 3:16 within the Sith Language. 1
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I'm getting my sleeves drawn up. I decided on different scenes in hell that will be more extreme than the Inferno. I'm looking at about $3000-$4000 worth of beautiful torture. Woot woot!Maybe I'll have the BYU Cougar in one scene...just for Garden Girl.I am getting old, don understand. But not my arms. Edited October 11, 2013 by Bill “Papa” Lee
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I think the only one I am even tempted to get is a substitute for wearing a wedding ring (I finally stopped wearing mine because I'd take it off in my sleep and other times without thinking.I took mine off to work on an Aircraft in the early 80's...the only time it comes off now is if I am under the knife; they make me.
Damien the Leper Posted October 11, 2013 Author Posted October 11, 2013 I am getting old, don understand. But not my arms. Nonsense! You won't start getting old until you're at least 107 years young, Pa Pa. 1
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) I'm not anymore. This is a matter of taste. There is nothing covenantal about having tats. There is no official commandment.You are correct, these are guidelines to those who believe the words of Latter-day Prophets. You are a grown up and can do what you like, but you did bring this up for us to comment. My friend never be angry at the advice of those with age and hopefully wisdom...it is not meant to harm. Edited October 11, 2013 by Bill “Papa” Lee
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 (edited) Nonsense! You won't start getting old until you're at least 107 years young, Pa Pa.That will never happen and if it did I fear the first ting I might say to God is...."What were you thinking!" Besides between diabetes, sarcoidosis and injury, I would not want to live that long. Edited October 11, 2013 by Bill “Papa” Lee
Garden Girl Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 I took mine off to work on an Aircraft in the early 80's...the only time it comes off now is if I am under the knife; they make me. They would let me tape mine as I wanted it ON... and I've had numerous surgeries through the years where they would just use that paper tape several times around my ring and finger... GG
Damien the Leper Posted October 12, 2013 Author Posted October 12, 2013 You are correct, these are guidelines to those who believe the words of Latter-day Prophets. You are a grown up and can do what you like, but you did bring this up for us to comment. My friend never be angry at the advice of those with age and hopefully wisdom...it is not meant to harm. Of course not. I love each and every one of the people I interact with on this board...even Wade Englund. :-) I'm not opposed to hearing others opinions but I'm past allowing my life to be governed by religion. I believe in God and I love God but the institutions no longer play a large part in my life.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 Of course not. I love each and every one of the people I interact with on this board...even Wade Englund. :-)I'm not opposed to hearing others opinions but I'm past allowing my life to be governed by religion. I believe in God and I love God but the institutions no longer play a large part in my life.I am a member of my religion...they don't govern me. They help give me direction and I govern myself, if anyone other than me governs myself it is scripture I believe came from God...thus God himself. But if govern means to control to some, even God does not control me....he gave me free will.
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