happy Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 So what about Green Tea? What is the official stance there? I have heard vastly different answers on that topic. It supposedly has a lot of great health benefits.
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) So what about Green Tea? What is the official stance there? I have heard vastly different answers on that topic. It supposedly has a lot of great health benefits.It's silly...but decaf Green Tea is also WoW friendly and perfectly fine...BUT...its not about the caffeine...its about obedience...but decaf coffee is also fine...but its not about the caffeine...AND cold coffee icecream is ok too...BUT Iced coffee is Bad...so are we back to the old cold caffeine must be frozen to be (OK) and hot caffeine in any form is (BAD) argument again? Edited August 21, 2012 by Craig Paxton
happy Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 It's silly...but decaf Green Tea is also WoW friendly and perfectly fine...BUT...its not about the caffeine...its about obedience...but decaf coffee is also fine...but its not about the caffeine...AND cold coffee icecream is ok too...BUT Iced coffee is Bad...so are we back to the old cold caffeine must be frozen to be (OK) and hot caffeine in any form is (BAD) argument again?My head hurts. At least Alcohol is easy. None, no exceptions.
CASteinman Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ummmm...Is that what its called when someone contributes to a thread that they started or am I just tempting you more than you can withstand?No... that is what it is called when someone is trolling. As I suspect you are doing.
halconero Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I think that a careful reading of D&C 89 will show that obedience to the Word of Wisdom is necessary to enter the temple. 1
DavidB Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) The whole "green tea" v. regular tea; non-alcoholic v. Utah watered downed alcoholic beverages v. every where else where alcohols are not watered down; coffee v. decaf....is just simply ridiculous.The Word Of Wisdom, is stated as a prohibition against Coffee and Tea - it does not distinguish between decaf and regular, or green tea and black tea, nor does it delineate the % of alcohol that turns water into a alcoholic drink.If green tea and decaf coffee are acceptable, does that mean that I can release Prince Albert from his can, because the current proper way of enjoying Prince Albert is to not inhale but simply enjoy the flavor? Edited August 21, 2012 by DavidB 1
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) No... that is what it is called when someone is trolling. As I suspect you are doing.Ahhhh....well the board is so fortunate to have you here to expose everyone's true motivations for posting...thank you for protecting us Edited August 21, 2012 by Craig Paxton
CASteinman Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ahhhh....well the board is so fortunate to have you here to expose everyone's true motivations for posting...thanks you for protecting usI don't know what your motives are.. but I suspect you are trolling. It has the hallmarks of trolling. But why you would be trolling I do not know.
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) Ice tea is disgusting, pure and simpleclearly you haven't tasted the right ice tea then...good ice tea is quite refreshing...start with a peach ice tea....delightful Edited August 21, 2012 by Craig Paxton
happy Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ahhhh....well the board is so fortunate to have you here to expose everyone's true motivations for posting...thanks you for protecting usCFR.. This is my first time asking. And I will count every additional CFR I demand of you.
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) I don't know what your motives are.. but I suspect you are trolling. It has the hallmarks of trolling. But why you would be trolling I do not know.Motivations?...Hmmmm....prehaps I was merely desirous of sharing a news story I thought would be of particular interest to the members of this forum...but then again...I'm confused becasue you seem to see my efforts as trolling...which if I understand the term is to merely post in the hope of insighting a riot of reaction and then sit back and watch as the infighting insues...Feel free to question my initial motivations as you have...BUT...I know in my heart I was only sharing a story of particular interest...controversial? yes...trolling? that wasn't my intent...Begs the question...is it only trolling when a non-believer posts a question? Or can a believer also be accused of trollingBTW: Your avitar is intimidating...kind of like the Wizzard of Oz just missing the smoke and fire Edited August 21, 2012 by Craig Paxton
Tacenda Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) So what about Green Tea? What is the official stance there? I have heard vastly different answers on that topic. It supposedly has a lot of great health benefits.I wanted to start drinking green tea when I found out it was a good antioxidant and might help prevent Alzheimers. A few years ago I actually called the COB to get an answer. They gave my call to a nice gentleman that told me it really was up to me to decide and mentioned hearing of LDS doctors that drink it for medicinal purposes. But even after that I just can't seem to drink it unless I put in a bunch if sugar! Edited August 21, 2012 by Tacenda
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 CFR.. This is my first time asking. And I will count every additional CFR I demand of you.What exactly are you asking me to CFR?
CASteinman Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Motivations?...Hmmmm....prehaps I was merely desirousof sharing a news story I thought would be of particular interest to the members of this forum...Maybe. Maybe something else. I would not know.Feel free to question my initial motivations as you have..I have not questioned your motives. I said I think you are trolling. But I do not know why you might be trolling.I don't mean for my avatar to intimidate. But it is a big forehead.
Mark Beesley Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 A rule of thumb for all Word of Wisdom questions: If you are unsure, err on the side of caution.If you are so insecure about making your own decisions about whether or not a particular substance is in compliance with the Word of Wisdom so that you have to ask and rely on the wisdom of someone else to answer for you, then you might not be wise enough to ask the right person so you'd better just abstain from whatever you have a question about. Just don't assume that you have then become wiser than someone who isn't abstaining. Things like green tea on ice or iced coffee drinks like a Frappuccino or Mocha. . . it wouldn't even occur to me ask if they were forbidden under the hot drinks clause . . . 1
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) A rule of thumb for all Word of Wisdom questions: If you are unsure, err on the side of caution.If you are so insecure about making your own decisions about whether or not a particular substance is in compliance with the Word of Wisdom so that you have to ask and rely on the wisdom of someone else to answer for you, then you might not be wise enough to ask the right person so you'd better just abstain from whatever you have a question about. Just don't assume that you have then become wiser than someone who isn't abstaining. Things like green tea on ice or iced coffee drinks like a Frappuccino or Mocha. . . it wouldn't even occur to me ask if they were forbidden under the hot drinks clause . . . but what about Coffee Icecream? Mitt says its ok...and I guess if its ok for Mitt...its OK with SLC Edited August 21, 2012 by Craig Paxton
CASteinman Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) but what about Coffee Icecream? Mitt says its ok...and I guess if its ok for Mitt...its OK with SLCThat is the sort of thing that I consider to be trolling. Making illogical sequences of statements from unsubstantiated reports whereby you draw controversial conclusions. Edited August 21, 2012 by CASteinman
Craig Paxton Posted August 21, 2012 Author Posted August 21, 2012 That is the sort of thing that I consider to be trolling. Making illogical sequences of statements from unsubstantiated reports whereby you draw controversial conclusions.CFR that it is a unsubstantiated report...there were witnesses, his own team confirmed it, the reporter reported it...why is it such a big deal if he likes coffee icecream...heck coffee icecream is good...I think it makse Mitt human
CASteinman Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 CFR that it is a unsubstantiated report...there were witnesses, his own team confirmed it, the reporter reported it...why is it such a big deal if he likes coffee icecream...heck coffee icecream is good...I think it makse Mitt humanI will be pleased to respond when you can tell me how to prove that there is no source for something. I think it is unreasonable to request a citation for something when what I am saying is that no citation exists to prove it. I need you to tell me how to cite something I said does not exist.However, to show that the press gets even big things wrong, let me point out:http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2032304_2032746_2033037,00.htmlThat they can get small things wrong is practically legendary:http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/05/local-news-anchor-president-obama-is-in-fact-dead/And of course sometimes its not a mistake:http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/11/us/correcting-the-record-times-reporter-who-resigned-leaves-long-trail-of-deception.html?pagewanted=all&src=pmIn this case I note that you make bad assumptions and since you like CFR -- even badly formed ones -- lets return the favor....1. There were witnesses. --- CFR that there were witnesses aside from the "reporter".2. His own team confirmed it -- CFR that they confirmed it.Your turn.
Tacenda Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ok what about the barley in the WoW? Is that beer? I know some disaffected mormons get a kick out of the WoW saying you can drink barley drinks. Meaning beer.
Calm Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) If you look at the picture, it looks more like vanilla than a coffee flavoured ice cream which is usually tinted a brown. Whatever it is, I highly doubt he's risking his TR by eating it.His team simply treated it as a nonissue...which it is, without saying anything about whether or not he actually ate that flavour....they likely weren't keeping track and could care less....as we all should.And he could have easily said something along the lines of "give me your best flavour". This is such a silly, useless story, is there really nothing of more value for this reporter to write up? Edited August 22, 2012 by calmoriah
DavidB Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Ok what about the barley in the WoW? Is that beer? I know some disaffected mormons get a kick out of the WoW saying you can drink barley drinks. Meaning beer.is barley beer "strong drink"?
Ron Beron Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 is barley beer "strong drink"?I drank barley drinks (aka mugicha) in Japan because it wasn't caffeinated nor was it alcoholic. Tasted a bit like Postum.
Ron Beron Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 I wanted to start drinking green tea when I found out it was a good antioxidant and might help prevent Alzheimers. A few years ago I actually called the COB to get an answer. They gave my call to a nice gentleman that told me it really was up to me to decide and mentioned hearing of LDS doctors that drink it for medicinal purposes. But even after that I just can't seem to drink it unless I put in a bunch if sugar!There are different kinds of green tea. The kind drunk in Japan as part of the cha-no-yu or tea ceremony is very bitter and highly caffeinated (it was drunk to keep the priests awake). American green tea, at least the kind in the bottles, has less caffeine than does Pepsi or Coke. I don't really like it so I avoid it.
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