bluebell Posted April 2 Posted April 2 36 minutes ago, supersc said: Timing may be geared to having the For The Strength of Youth monthly magazine prepped in time as it is a major source of lesson material to go along with the newly revised (this week, online) FSY pamphlet. You'd be hard-pressed to do 4 lessons each month on each of the 12 chapters of the new pamphlet, which is why the youth magazine will heavily supplement weekly lessons on that topic for that month. I didn’t realize they were talking about the magazine. I thought they were talking about doing a dedicated lesson manual.
Mark Beesley Posted April 3 Posted April 3 The change fits very nicely with the inspired Church approach to teaching the Gospel — Home Centered/Church Supported. Priesthood meeting and Relief Society do not need a “lesson.” They are intended to coordinate service opportunities. From my perspective, Sunday School could be entirely eliminated, but may continue to provide a valuable opportunity to fellowship. In fact, perhaps “Sunday School” needs a rebranding. In any event, the membership needs to understand and move forward with the view of concentrating Gospel teaching in the home. Just my two cents worth. 1
Calm Posted April 3 Posted April 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Beesley said: In any event, the membership needs to understand and move forward with the view of concentrating Gospel teaching in the home. How do you envision avoiding or at least lessening the likelihood of people going off the rails when not getting feedback on their ideas? As in gospel hobbying or assuming their interpretation must be the correct one? The there are those who are too insecure about their learning skills and fear to even start without some face to face engagement. Edited April 3 by Calm
Mark Beesley Posted April 3 Posted April 3 13 hours ago, Calm said: How do you envision avoiding or at least lessening the likelihood of people going off the rails when not getting feedback on their ideas? As in gospel hobbying or assuming their interpretation must be the correct one? The there are those who are too insecure about their learning skills and fear to even start without some face to face engagement. Trust in the Lord. Let the Holy Spirit guide. Follow the Prophet. Ministering. 3
Tacenda Posted April 3 Posted April 3 On 4/1/2026 at 5:04 PM, bluebell said: I wish they would cut sacrament meeting. It would go along way towards the ideal of the sacrament being the most important part of the meeting if the blessing and taking of it weren’t such a small part of the 60 minutes (and if the speakers weren’t front and center and the defacto center of the meeting) I agree on this one! One speaker and done. 2
longview Posted April 13 Posted April 13 On 4/3/2026 at 3:33 PM, Tacenda said: On 4/1/2026 at 5:04 PM, bluebell said: I wish they would cut sacrament meeting. It would go along way towards the ideal of the sacrament being the most important part of the meeting if the blessing and taking of it weren’t such a small part of the 60 minutes (and if the speakers weren’t front and center and the defacto center of the meeting) I agree on this one! One speaker and done. This would limit each ward to only 49 Sundays thus only 49 speakers per year. This will deny a youth speaker and two adults. Thus depriving 98 people the opportunity for public speaking and building character.
bluebell Posted April 13 Posted April 13 43 minutes ago, longview said: This would limit each ward to only 49 Sundays thus only 49 speakers per year. This will deny a youth speaker and two adults. Thus depriving 98 people the opportunity for public speaking and building character. I’m ok with that. 3
JAHS Posted April 14 Posted April 14 2 hours ago, bluebell said: 3 hours ago, longview said: This would limit each ward to only 49 Sundays thus only 49 speakers per year. This will deny a youth speaker and two adults. Thus depriving 98 people the opportunity for public speaking and building character. I’m ok with that. Me too. One youth speaker and one adult speaker. After all the main reason for Sacrament meeting is to take the Sacrament. 3
Calm Posted April 14 Posted April 14 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JAHS said: Me too. One youth speaker and one adult speaker. After all the main reason for Sacrament meeting is to take the Sacrament. The scriptures command us to gather together and share testimony; they don’t command that we provide opportunities for members to learn how to publicly speak more effectively. It was a good side benefit of being a member. Now they have kids teaching more. Bet that provides even more opportunities than maybe once a year talk…unless in a small branch and then opportunities for leadership, learning to be comfortable in speaking, etc. is quite different from what I have been told (only lived in a Utah ward for 4 months as an outsider, but only time in a branch was in Moscow and that was a very different experience). Edited April 14 by Calm 2
bsjkki Posted April 16 Posted April 16 I was so disappointed realizing we have to wait until September for this change. I am ready now. 2
MiserereNobis Posted May 2 Posted May 2 On 4/1/2026 at 5:04 PM, bluebell said: I wish they would cut sacrament meeting. It would go along way towards the ideal of the sacrament being the most important part of the meeting if the blessing and taking of it weren’t such a small part of the 60 minutes (and if the speakers weren’t front and center and the defacto center of the meeting) This was my experience from the times I went to your services. The speakers were the practical point of the meeting, even if it was said otherwise. Do you think this is something that came from low church protestant roots? Or is there a doctrinal reason for it? 2
Okrahomer Posted May 5 Author Posted May 5 On 5/2/2026 at 9:54 AM, MiserereNobis said: This was my experience from the times I went to your services. The speakers were the practical point of the meeting, even if it was said otherwise. Do you think this is something that came from low church protestant roots? Or is there a doctrinal reason for it? From my perspective, there is definitely a Protestant low-church component to LDS Sacrament meetings, but that only captures one aspect of it. Theologically, the center is the Sacrament ordinance itself; so while the talks change each week, the ordinance remains the same every time. The repetition of the ordinance over years of participation makes it almost instinctive to sense when one of the priests makes a mistake. Because of that, I think our approach is best understood as a hybrid of high- and low-church patterns —sermon-style in its delivery, but sacramental in its core focus. The model works for me, because while I can usually enjoy the talks, it’s the weekly repetition of the ordinance that connects me in a tangible way to Jesus Christ. 3
bluebell Posted May 5 Posted May 5 On 5/2/2026 at 8:54 AM, MiserereNobis said: This was my experience from the times I went to your services. The speakers were the practical point of the meeting, even if it was said otherwise. Do you think this is something that came from low church protestant roots? Or is there a doctrinal reason for it? It’s probably a holdover from Protestantism. 1
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