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I am heartsick as well with the shootings you mentioned and this. When I watched the news coverage and saw the area that the event with Charlie occurred it appeared that he was like a dead duck to begin with. The surrounding balcony seating and no security with people just walking there and not checked such as backpacks etc. I was interested in watching the event at a later time if it was video'd, yesterday and thought it would be inside. This should have taken place in an enclosed secure arena, especially with all the politically motivated shootings beforehand. I wish the school had been better prepared but hate to place blame because this will have a dark shadow over it for a long time. And those students that had to witness it is devastating. I don't agree with Charlie on many things, but did like that he'd want the opposite view on things. And that he's a father, husband etc. And it was sad to see him carried to a regular vehicle and not be in an ambulance where they maybe could have done more to save his life. But understand the mindset his security team were in. I hope your grandson and his friends will be okay after this, along with your sister and husband. This affected me so much, and glad it did because I don't want to become desensitized. But do worry for those that will not be the same again. I'm P'O'd too!

I am so impressed with the women leaders throughout history in the church, and remember them from long ago and hopefully women don't lose their position even more, as they did when the PH took charge of the RS organization. I hope for it to be returned, if that's even possible with the generation gap of young women or women not really knowing what women held at one time.

Here's the guy that sings to animals. Makes me want to be vegan and also, it's spiritual to watch. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOT3wzdiAkn/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Thanks for your input, I always like what you say. The story of John Gustav-Wrathall sounds an awful lot like the brother of D. Todd Christofferson, which is Tom. I thought I heard he began dating again. I think Tom is still active and holds callings, not sure.

I gave up years ago of hoping for a direct feeling that God is with me or listening. I believe it may happen, but I know I'm one of millions. Maybe an angel or someone gone before might be there more often since they have a much smaller realm than God does. I just know there's something much bigger than me and that gives me a lot of hope. Wish I had more than that, but to me it's enough or better than not believing in anything out there. But one only needs to see the world and it's beauty and the living species and creatures to know there's more. I've been listening to a great Insta or tik tok where a guy plays the guitar and sings solely for animals and they will go right up to him and enjoy and love it so much. It's enough for me, to have a reality where time is but a moment in eternity. I hope you get some answers that help, stelf! PS: I do speak to HF when I need to in my mind and out loud. So I must believe the Divine or God is listening after all.

I recently heard about this while listening to a podcast with Greg Prince. I've yet to begin listening, but I guess it was geared toward people like myself, so I guess I'll give it a shot. Anyone else listen? Or have you heard about it? It feels very contradictory when you see the guests. On one side the ex'd or ex LDS and the other side those that defend the faith but at the same time acknowledge the issues and still keep the faith. I think this will help people, it sure would have helped me several years ago, my how the time sped up so fast. Feels like yesterday, still holding it all in for the most part except on this board, thanks to all of you who've put up with me.

Very good point. Such as the plural wives of the prophets. Have we had lessons on Emma? No need to answer, a question for anyone that knows. Or I could Google.

It's really sad, IMO. That RS changed to being taught the same things the men were learning during RS/PH time. We had had culture lessons along with so many other types of lessons geared toward women and then change change change, were relegated to have these books to study the presidents of the church each year. Too bad we didn't do that with the RS presidents. Oh well, such is life in the male dominated churches everywhere.

I wish for the church to be transparent with everything, no matter what it exposes. I think the harm it does to it's members w/o mentioning monies, could be youth interviews. I hope they're not asking youth if they masturbated. Last night I was out to dinner with my son and daughter-in-law and they both were asked that question in their youth and neither had ever heard the word before. Therefore it's like opening up a world unknown to the youth, and also being asked about porn viewing, it can open up another world. We shouldn't be asking these things to the youth, it's harmful. Is it any wonder that we have a major porn problem in the church, also taking away the Sacrament. My daughter in law served a mission in Guam and surrounding islands, now I forget the mission name, but it wasn't just Guam. She got flesh eating disease and we saw a pic of her being hooked up to a Gatorade bottle posing as an IV of all things! She's lucky to be alive! She was only able to serve 11 months of her mission. Later she was married in the temple and active and all that. She happen to post on FB her dissatisfaction of the members in the church. She's from out of state and I guess she was so disappointed in what she'd seen. This was in Utah County, btw. Well that post was shared by someone to the bishop of her ward and he told her she needed to take it down or be disciplined. She wouldn't do it and therefore told to stop taking the Sacrament for a time. Eventually she has become inactive and was also divorced and now with my son. So corrupted? Could the church be corrupt for how it treats it's members in these ways? And also the money spent by the church, once again could go to more people and could save so many more lives out there, so I guess in a matter of speaking could that be corrupt? Plus, when the church set up their own banking system with Joseph Smith, could that be something? But I do know the church is good in so many ways. But lo and behold, let me have it people! About not enough money going out.

I saw that on the news. I was on a vacation last weekend in Bryce Canyon, Utah and there were a lot of people from out of the country. We met the coolest couple and their parents from Paris, France and they were heading to the Sequoias. They had seen a lot of LA, California and Las Vegas and Zion's National Park, I was hoping all would go well for them. The fires are terrible this year, or it feels like so many, and there are so many in my home state. I will keep this in my prayers.

Thanks for all your comments on such a silly post really. Or maybe not, to Al it's hard to take, she's all about that number one is Christ. And in the church that is true, but I thought I'd ask the question here for Al, not that she reads the board, not sure. I had a wonderful experience at the Hill Comorah and surrounding areas in Palmyra with my husband at the start of my faith crisis. And do remember the Christus, but maybe it's a given that we believe in Christ and doesn't need to be some kind of idol. Jesus is a humble Saviour after all. I do remember a time in the eighties where in Relief Society we'd get a porcelain Christus or an unfinished Jesus in the Garden of Gethsamani. And we would sand it down, I had the Gethsamani one and it was an experience to lightly sand it to be smooth, sort of spiritual. But then a Stake President in my sister in law's stake wasn't all that happy with us doing this, maybe it was something to do with worshipping idols? But anyhow thanks to those of you for taking time out of your day to respond to my post.

Saw this on a FB post by Al Fox Carraway, she's the one that joined the church in her younger age and had already had a lot of tattoos and wrote the book called "Tattooed Mormon". She is wondering why the Palmyra visitor's center took the Christus down. Do we have any guesses or true reasons that someone has heard? https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1Cnp21UMB5/

Welcome back on participating on the board, you were missed!! While playing pickleball with former ward friends and neighbors yesterday. They mentioned that last Sunday during Sacrament meeting there was a musical number where they had the audience stand and sing while a ukulele (?) and violin (?) were playing, "This Little Light of Mine" and they were actually clapping to it. In my days as active LDS this would be unheard of during Sacrament meetings, plus the song I don't think we'd sing, w/o the clapping even. It just seems very Evangelical like. Which I think is great because sometimes in church the hymn singing lacked a lot. Even drove out the spirit, but not always. But I guess it's new in our hymns this year, here's a YouTube!

I remember those and I really wanted to do that with my young family, until I realized I'd have to sacrifice and not drink my diet soda (flavor changes through the years), lame!

Maybe, just maybe, he mean't like the expression when you're excited about something or mystified I don't know but sort of like this: Meaning: . In slang, "shut up" is sometimes used to express amazement or disbelief at something someone has said.

During my mom's time with Alzheimer's I was devastated to lose her in the disease, I prayed and prayed. I had full faith that God could help her when my husband and brother-in-law gave her a PH blessing. I thought God was mean when my mom at the young age she was, was overtaken with the disease and her life ended abruptly as she and us knew it. Then on top of that injury she had to valiantly live the disease for 10 years. Now, I just accept what I cannot change and I believe there are many angels and God needs them to help. But we need to call out to them or Him. And I guess, as has been known to say, God works in mysterious ways. But I'm sorry, @JVW, I hope things are looking brighter for you and if not, that you hang on and feel good in being you're own God for the time being if God is elsewhere. And maybe some angels or guardian angels will hear you! I don't know if you know @mfbukowski or @Mfbnew, he always speaks about us as having the kingdom of God within us, so that's what I mean with with being your own God in times that you feel God is just being plain ole' mean!

Thanks, I'll check on it!

That sounds familiar, pretty sure that's it. And I even said I'd maybe watch now I can! Thanks!

There is something to what you've said here, maybe he's seeing which of us he'd like to have around for an eternity.

Same here, and now I want to go watch the movies!

My daughter in law recently said she'd watched an alien movie so it peaked my interest on what you watched on TV, if you don't mind sharing. I thought she watched something on Hulu or Netflix.

I didn't know you could play online, should have though. I'd love to learn how to play chess, didn't think I was smart enough honestly! Thanks for your example of going for something like this!

I get what he's going through I do this often with other things. Maybe even on here!

I loved our conversations a few years ago when you posted!

All these years I've been on the generous side, but maybe I'm not and just thought I was after seeing I should be spending twice as much for family and close friends. I'm happy to do it, especially for the youth because they got screwed (forgive the word) but it feels like it. We older folks had it so good if you're in your senior years. We should all be rooting them on. Recently I heard that the government was going to or didn't vote for a no cash system, and go digital! Oh heck no!