Tacenda

changed mind

I've just found out someone near and dear to my family was sexually abused by an older brother. She's been suffering for years and this is lifelong. What can we do to help society not do these horrible crimes. I wish I knew.

You definitely know VIP's there, hint hint!!

Maybe this is a dumb question since I'm out of the loop. Is it an 18 month mission or 24 month mission? I think it's great, and more equal to the young men.

So true, let the generations evolve, haha!

But you're real.

That is correct, I had forgotten the name of the group. But it did start the whole thing collapsing.

I remain old fashioned with things in the church such as the Road Shows the youth put on, the church pageant plays throughout the historical areas etc., even the Boy Scouts. Things continually change. I think this change has a lot to do with the women's group that wanted to have the Priesthood be given to the females in the church. I remember the day that the group, now the name of the group escapes me, attended the men's only Priesthood Session of conference. And that is why the PH session was then turned to include everyone. And sadly the women's session was taken away. One thing I didn't like was them including eight year old youngsters to be able to go to the women's session, maybe the men's as well, can't remember. I think that's too young. While active I remember my husband's father and brothers (including their sons) attending the PH session throughout the years and my mother-in-law providing pie and ice cream afterwards. And the women's session, I would usually watch from my home or from our ward/stake building which included a light dinner or dessert. These are fond memories, and the old ways are so missed. I know that traditions were formed from having them. I heard one the other day, something like, what are the women going to do while their husbands aren't at PH sessions, such as going together and shopping at the Deseret Bookstore, for one. Seems like the church is streamlining, there's a word for it, that I've forgotten that one of the leaders mentioned years ago in a talk, but it escaped me. The community of the church is very important and hopefully it's not stripped down to the bare bones.

I finally got to listen to this book on Libby. It was very difficult to listen to in many spots. Made me worry for those in that faith, the women are being trained in ways that are so harmful. It makes me hate the Bible. I really wish there was Bible information before people read it, to take serious note that the Bible is man made, unless it's God breathed. Even Jimmy Carter who is a stalwart Christian has mentioned that it can be harmful.

Thanks for responding! I've never once heard discussion in GD about polygamy. Good to know and what I think is going to happen when more transparency happens.

I wanted to attend the Gospel Doctrine lesson on polygamy this past Sunday but didn't get there. How did it go in your wards, anyone that care to answer. In the past I didn't hear much about JS's polygamy but that was years ago. And possibly I was teaching a Primary class and missed it. I just wonder how the transparency is looking especially since the Saint's books have been released.

I hope this is the opening of many out there's eyes opening up about Tim Ballard and the ilk.

Well, I was going to say something else to MustardSeed, and that is many women like regular underwear for their period time. I hope I didn't offend her by what I said with wondering if it's okay for regular underwear.

Quoting again, I'm confused about the slip garment. Does it mean women are allowed to wear regular underwear? I sure would hope so.

I agree with you on most of what you say, I'm the same. I hold those notions in my head too, particularly with not wearing sleeves and what will people think. I probably won't go sleeveless especially now since my arms are flabby at my age. But I'll bet those people that work out and have defined arms will enjoy being able to show them now. I actually believe the church had other reasons to go sleeveless besides that it's too hot for those in the hot climates. I believe the youth are changing things and the church would like them to keep going to church and the temple. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

Do you mind sharing why she's upset, your wife? No worries if not. It does say a lot about the modesty part, especially when a famous person's artwork was changed to show sleeves in the Ensign a few years ago.

Yes, whatever happened to the idea that we have current revelation?

I think it's my age, soon to be 64. Before taking out my endowments, I was not modest as far as the church goes. So it took a lot of faith on my part to wear the "g's" during those times. It was paramount that I wear them daily, except to shower or swim I guess. So I do see a big difference. I don't judge anyone, I just think of the difference I guess. More power to these women really. And to you! I kind of wish I had worded my post differently now. I do look forward to the short sleeves. For years I've constantly tugged at my sleeves around the collars to not show, because of all the material, in the most modest shirts ever that would still show at my neck. Garments fit differently on everyone. I am just so use to wearing them, when I go without it feels so uncomfortable.

I see a lot of members, women, not wearing garments. Or their clothing sure doesn't look like they are, short shorts, sleeveless shirts. I guess they think we'll think they're doing something that requires that attire, lol. In my days as a young person that wore garments, I never went w/o under my clothing, unless I swam. I guess it is a pet peeve of mine seeing the difference. I still wear them and I'm not active.

I'm bracing myself before reading! Welcome back!!!

I haven't seen either, but going to try and see at least one if not both!🎃

I know of a few people that have, semi recently.

He and the whole group (too political), do.

I saw some snippets of this, BYU played a good game, sadly the Utes really didn't.

What a sick in the head person. Or maybe he wasn't loved? I don't know, but it's terribly sad what's happening to churches around us.