mfbukowski Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 12 hours ago, HappyJackWagon said: I'm curious how this may effect staffing of temple workers. Many, myself included, opted to be veil workers because we could simply act as veil worker as part of normal temple attendance without having to commit to a number of long shifts each month. While sitting in the chapel prior to going into the endowment a temple worker would typically ask if there were any veil workers in company who could assist. There were usually at least a couple present. It was a nice way to be a temple worker without the commitment of working prescribed shifts throughout the month, especially when there was considerable distance to drive to attend. Now, they will just have to make due with the temple workers who are present and shift them around from place to place a little more quickly to ensure they're all at the veil on time. It will be interesting to see. Having said all of that, I suspect that the number of veil workers who helped at the veil on a consistent basis may have been pretty small, so maybe this won't be noticeable at all. Typically as many ordinance workers as are necessary are already pre-assigned at those times when it is known there will be a veil. In cases where there is an extraordinarily large veil for some reason, workers are typically taken away from initiatories or other areas at Temple. Of course it is impossible to predict how many patrons will show up at a given session at a given time. If there are fewer veil workers available a veil may simply take longer.
mfbukowski Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 11 hours ago, bluebell said: It must be different in every area. In my parents area, they only had to commit to one Saturday a month. But in most areas that simply implies that they will do more than one shift that day.
Hamba Tuhan Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 4 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Typically as many ordinance workers as are necessary are already pre-assigned at those times when it is known there will be a veil. In cases where there is an extraordinarily large veil for some reason, workers are typically taken away from initiatories or other areas at Temple. I think you may be significantly underestimating the staffing levels of temples outside of Southern California and a few other areas.
Hamba Tuhan Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 3 hours ago, mfbukowski said: But in most areas that simply implies that they will do more than one shift that day. No. This is simply not the case in ‘most areas’. Those who live in the same city as our temple are asked to commit to one shift per week. Those who live elsewhere are asked to commit to only one shift per month. As it is, a trip to the temple for me takes about 27 hours all up. Other temple workers travel more than that. Even those in the temple city might have to travel three hours each way. That makes a shift in the temple a 12-hour commitment. Working two shifts is not an option merely from a logistical perspective. 1
bluebell Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 8 hours ago, mfbukowski said: But in most areas that simply implies that they will do more than one shift that day. They do an 8 hours, which is still far less than the 24 hours HJW said people in his area had to commit to to month.
mfbukowski Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bluebell said: They do an 8 hours, which is still far less than the 24 hours HJW said people in his area had to commit to to month. Ok thanks. By this time I should know that everyone does not live in southern California. On the other hand nor does everyone live in Utah. Here in LA LA land we are very short on Temple workers. Edited March 3, 2019 by mfbukowski 2
Scott Lloyd Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Ok thanks. By this time I should know that everyone does not live in southern California. On the other hand nor does everyone live in Utah. Here in LA LA land we are very short on Temple workers. Becoming an ordinance worker was not my idea and, to be honest, had never occurred to me. But I earnestly accepted the call when it came. I have to believe Southern California has a lot of Latter-day Saints who are like me in that respect and would readily accept such a calling if it came to them. Edited March 3, 2019 by Scott Lloyd
DispensatorMysteriorum Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) Our ward is about 45 minutes away from the temple, and a full 10% of our active ward members are currently temple workers (including a sealer). I think that's probably an unusually high number of workers, and yet we are constantly getting pleas for more workers. If every ward had 10% of their active members serving in the temple, I think there would be more temple workers than they'd know what to do with. Edited March 3, 2019 by DispensatorMysteriorum 2
bluebell Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 9 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Ok thanks. By this time I should know that everyone does not live in southern California. On the other hand nor does everyone live in Utah. Here in LA LA land we are very short on Temple workers. My parents serve in the Billings MT temple. 1
Hamba Tuhan Posted March 3, 2019 Posted March 3, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Becoming an ordinance worker was not my idea and, to be honest, had never occurred to me. Same. I read about the policy change and thought well, that could include me. But I didn't expect to get a phone call from the temple before the week was out. As I posted at the time, I didn't know what to do with the call and was inclined to turn it down. But I did what I've learnt to do in the Church, and I took it to Heavenly Father. I'm glad He corrected my inclination! The experience has been beyond expectations and has permanently altered my 'relationship' with the temple ordinances. Edited March 4, 2019 by Hamba Tuhan 2
longview Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 10 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Here in LA LA land we are very short on Temple workers. Because the commute is just AWFUL? 2
mfbukowski Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, longview said: Because the commute is just AWFUL? Getting out of West LA (temple location) on a Friday afternoon is ridiculous, on the surface streets. Seriously. We are talking around an hour to go one mile. If you haven't been in that you won't believe it. Gridlock in all directions.
Kenngo1969 Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Getting out of West LA (temple location) on a Friday afternoon is ridiculous, on the surface streets. Seriously. We are talking around an hour to go one mile. If you haven't been in that you won't believe it. Gridlock in all directions. Don't worry. Governor Newsome wants to ensure that Californians can get everywhere by train. (It might bankrupt the state, but ... ) 1
Scott Lloyd Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Don't worry. Governor Newsome wants to ensure that Californians can get everywhere by train. (It might bankrupt the state, but ... ) Is he an Ocasio-Cortez “green new deal” acolyte? Sounds like just the thing to hasten the already prodigious on-going exodus from the Golden State. 1
mfbukowski Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Is he an Ocasio-Cortez “green new deal” acolyte? Sounds like just the thing to hasten the already prodigious on-going exodus from the Golden State. Better described, she might be one of his followers. previous to being Governor he was mayor of San Francisco. Two peas in a pod. https://www-sfchronicle-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.sfchronicle.com/news/amp/Is-California-high-speed-rail-still-a-train-to-12757303.php?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfchronicle.com%2Fnews%2Farticle%2FIs-California-high-speed-rail-still-a-train-to-12757303.php And gas prices in California are now pushing a $4 a gallon, all due to taxes. Ain't that grand? Anybody want to take an Express train to Bakersfield? The joys of socialism as actually practiced.! Edited March 4, 2019 by mfbukowski 2
Scott Lloyd Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 4 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Better described, she might be one of his followers. previous to being Governor he was mayor of San Francisco. Two peas in a pod. https://www-sfchronicle-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.sfchronicle.com/news/amp/Is-California-high-speed-rail-still-a-train-to-12757303.php?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From %1%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sfchronicle.com%2Fnews%2Farticle%2FIs-California-high-speed-rail-still-a-train-to-12757303.php And gas prices in California are now pushing a $4 a gallon, all due to taxes. Ain't that grand? Anybody want to take an Express train to Bakersfield? The joys of socialism as actually practiced.! $4 a gallon? Wow. I just tanked up here for $1.89.
Hamba Tuhan Posted March 4, 2019 Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: I just tanked up here for $1.89. I just did the conversions. My fill-up last night cost me US$3.44/gallon. Just to provide a bit of international context ...
Kenngo1969 Posted March 5, 2019 Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: I just did the conversions. My fill-up last night cost me US$3.44/gallon. Just to provide a bit of international context ... That's probably a bargain on gas outside the U.S., though! Edited March 5, 2019 by Kenngo1969
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