Christian Mormon Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 I was wondering if there was a letter in any language in the world that when you look at the writing that particular letter or letters it can resemble the angel Moroni with trumpet
theplains Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Christian Mormon said: I was wondering if there was a letter in any language in the world that when you look at the writing that particular letter or letters it can resemble the angel Moroni with trumpet Do you believe Moroni is an angel or a resurrected/translated human? Jim
Doctrine 612 Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) The Chinese character for "to covet" has the woman symbol combined with two trees. The Chinese character for a boat combines vessel with person and the number 8. There were 8 persons in Noah's ark. BOAT Here is a simple illustration of the Chinese language's testimony to the events in the book of Genesis. The Chinese word for boat is made up of three component radicals. The left most character means "ship" or "vessel." The upper righthand character is the Chinese number "eight." The bottom righthand character is the word for "mouth" or "person." The first boat mentioned in the Bible is Noah's ark. Ju Edited May 6, 2018 by Doctrine 612 1
Calm Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) Alternative POV to Chinese claim (Rationalwiki is biased, so I would double-check its info...but I suggest doing that with everything anyway) Quote The idea behind this setup is to suggest that the character refers to the eight people that were on the Ark: Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives. However, CMI is making a crucial mistake in disassembling the character completely. What they ignore is the fact that Chinese characters are not made up exclusively of components that provide a meaning, but also of phonetic radicals that are supposed to offer a clue as to how they're pronounced. In both of the cases above, they simply skip this part in order to extract the meaning they want from it. The first character does not feature 八 and 口 as separate components, but rather as the combination 㕣 yǎn, with the (irrelevant) meaning of "marsh". Likewise, the second one features 公 gōng, "public" as the additional component. Another point which they ignore completely is that there are specific kanji/hanzi for an ark — 方舟 (fāngzhōu) in Chinese or the Japanese 箱舟 hakobune which translates roughly as "square-boat", or "box-boat".[12] Noah's Ark would be ノアの箱舟 — Noa no Hakobune. The number eight has significance in Chinese culture (e.g., Eight Immortals, Eight Trigrams of the I Ching). Finding yet another eight is unsurprising. Creationists use this claim to bolster the idea that the Chinese, along with all other cultures, are descended from Noah and his family. Creationists fail to realize that of the two deluge legends from Chinese mythology, one myth involves the flood being averted twice, and the other features a brother, Fuxi, and a sister, Nuwa, survive the flood in a gourd, with all non-divine life perishing. Moreover, the Chinese invented the word "八" 1,800 years ago[citation needed]. Why would the Chinese wait 1,200 years after the Flood to commemorate it in their written language?[citation needed] The claim that Chinese characters commemorate the Noachian Deluge is nonsense. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hanzi_of_Genesis#.E8.88.B9_-_.22Large_boat.22 for covet: Quote Another mistranslation, this one's not a verb, but the adjective "greedy" (lán). Here we have the combination of "two trees" (林 — which is actually the symbol for "grove" or "forest", lín) with the symbol for woman (女 nǚ). I assume the straw they're grasping at here has to do with Eve (yes, it's all her fault, of course) and the tree of Life and The Knowledge of Good and Evil, which apparently was actually "two trees".[note 3] Anyway, they once again ignore the phonetic aspect of the character — here, it's 林 lín, which is again not supposed to provide meaning. It is, unfortunately, not uncommon for Chinese characters with negative connotations to feature the symbol for "woman", so this can't simply be taken as any reference to Eve. Sexism comes in many other forms than just the Christian concept of original sin and the woman who allegedly started it all. Here are a couple of examples from Japanese that feature 女 onna in a less-than-complimentary sense: Edited May 6, 2018 by Calm
The Nehor Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) Have you checked John Dee’s Enochian? Edited May 7, 2018 by The Nehor
Robert F. Smith Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 3 hours ago, The Nehor said: Have you checked John Dee’s Enochian? Yes, Dee's Book of Enoch is among the Sloan MSS in the British Museum.
Robert F. Smith Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 11 hours ago, Christian Mormon said: I was wondering if there was a letter in any language in the world that when you look at the writing that particular letter or letters it can resemble the angel Moroni with trumpet You mean something like the winged angels outside Caesar's Palace in Vegas? 1
pogi Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 On 5/6/2018 at 2:07 PM, Christian Mormon said: I was wondering if there was a letter in any language in the world that when you look at the writing that particular letter or letters it can resemble the angel Moroni with trumpet Why? 2
mfbukowski Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) This was mentioned in a different thread- I think this is what he is after. This is an image of a horse in caligraphy that is actually a verse of the Quaran http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2018/03/where-horses-can-take-you-and-my-quest.html Edited May 8, 2018 by mfbukowski
mfbukowski Posted May 8, 2018 Posted May 8, 2018 I am a horrible artist unfortunately but I have tried sometimes to draw pictures which are made of words or short sentences which read also as a word and a picture. I have lost the image but to illustrate what I mean, I once sent out something like this- but better- as a Christmas card This guy looks a little drunk but the word is JOY and it is supposed to be kind of a smiley face where the J is the nose, the top of the J the forehead, the O is an eye (he is supposed to be winking) and the mouth is the Y. Horrible attempt but maybe you can see the idea behind it anyway. 1
Christian Mormon Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 yes...there has to be some image or letter that looks like the angel moroni...want it so bad
Christian Mormon Posted May 9, 2018 Author Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, mfbukowski said: This was mentioned in a different thread- I think this is what he is after. This is an image of a horse in caligraphy that is actually a verse of the Quaran http://mormanity.blogspot.com/2018/03/where-horses-can-take-you-and-my-quest.html yes...there has to be some image or letter that looks like the angel moroni...want it so bad Edited May 9, 2018 by Christian Mormon
Calm Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 54 minutes ago, Christian Mormon said: yes...there has to be some image or letter that looks like the angel moroni...want it so bad Why? Might be willing to look if I knew why it was important toyou.
MormonMason Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 2:35 PM, theplains said: Do you believe Moroni is an angel or a resurrected/translated human? Jim You know full well that for Mormons Moroni is an angel who is a resurrected human being. Well, at least I assumed you knew. If you didn't know something so basic as that perhaps you should resort to further study?
MormonMason Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 On 05/06/2018 at 2:07 PM, Christian Mormon said: I was wondering if there was a letter in any language in the world that when you look at the writing that particular letter or letters it can resemble the angel Moroni with trumpet Not exactly what you are looking for but Arabic Calligraphy may be able to supply what you need.
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