The Nehor Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Duncan said: ooooooooooooh, shots fired That was unfair. I did like Fraggle Rock but that was only kind of Canadian. You also gave us one of the greatest movies ever made:
Duncan Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, The Nehor said: That was unfair. I did like Fraggle Rock but that was only kind of Canadian. You also gave us one of the greatest movies ever made: At first i thought you were talking about Strange Brew or Canadian Bacon! alas.............I've never heard of this movie before!
HappyJackWagon Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Duncan said: At first i thought you were talking about Strange Brew or Canadian Bacon! alas.............I've never heard of this movie before! Boy, this conversation took a turn. From threats to the church to Fraggle Rock Edited March 17, 2017 by HappyJackWagon 1
notHagoth7 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, HappyJackWagon said: Boy, this conversation took a turn. From threats to the church to Fraggle Rock At least it established that inter-dimensional travel isn't always a threat to the church. 1
Tsuzuki Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 3 hours ago, notHagoth7 said: At least it established that inter-dimensional travel isn't always a threat to the church. Doctor Strange represents a competing model of exaltation.
cinepro Posted March 17, 2017 Author Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) On 3/16/2017 at 6:15 AM, Duncan said: I DON"T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHHAHAHHAHAHA! I only watch Seinfeld, Gilmour Girls, the Tonite Show hosted by Mr. Jimmy Fallon and Flipper They're "Daleks" from Doctor Who. I've never watched the show, but I guess they've seeped far enough into the sub-culture that I've heard of them. Edited March 17, 2017 by cinepro 1
Duncan Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, cinepro said: They're "Daleks" from Doctor Who. I've never watched the show, but I guess they've seeped far enough into the sub-culture that I've heard of them. aha! I thought maybe they were old Price is Right props from the Mr. Bob Barker days
Tsuzuki Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 46 minutes ago, Tsuzuki said: Doctor Strange represents a competing model of exaltation. By the way, Steve Englehart (one of the main writers for Doctor Strange) is a member of Ordo Templi Orientis, the same occult fraternal order that I belong to. http://thelemanow.com/thelema-now-guest-steve-englehart-45-minutes-
HappyJackWagon Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Tsuzuki said: By the way, Steve Englehart (one of the main writers for Doctor Strange) is a member of Ordo Templi Orientis, the same occult fraternal order that I belong to. http://thelemanow.com/thelema-now-guest-steve-englehart-45-minutes- Tsuzuki- This is off topic and I hope this isn't rude but I'm curious. I see that you list yourself as a "luciferian". Does that mean you worship satan and/or evil, or does it mean something else?
Tsuzuki Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 1 hour ago, HappyJackWagon said: Tsuzuki- This is off topic and I hope this isn't rude but I'm curious. I see that you list yourself as a "luciferian". Does that mean you worship satan and/or evil, or does it mean something else? It means whatever you want to project on to it. As for remaining on topic, I grew up Mormon, but began exploring occultism because I felt that Mormonism needed something more. I am now the same religion as Doctor Strange, and am a member of the same occult fraternity as one of Doctor Strange's main writers. I think they should have included Doctor Strange as a bubble in their Power Point presentation.
The Nehor Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Duncan said: aha! I thought maybe they were old Price is Right props from the Mr. Bob Barker days The first Daleks were made in the 60s so they have the right feel. 1
The Nehor Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Tsuzuki said: Doctor Strange represents a competing model of exaltation. Okay, so Jesus laid out the LDS plan, Lucifer laid out the failed compulsion plan, and I created the dumb third plan that involved eating the tree of life after the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so everyone would live forever in their sins (this plan died in committee). Who came up with granting the Ancient One mystical powers so that wizards can be exalted too?
Tsuzuki Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 4 hours ago, The Nehor said: Okay, so Jesus laid out the LDS plan, Lucifer laid out the failed compulsion plan, and I created the dumb third plan that involved eating the tree of life after the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so everyone would live forever in their sins (this plan died in committee). Who came up with granting the Ancient One mystical powers so that wizards can be exalted too? It's a pity you abandoned your plan. It didn't entirely die in committee. On the contrary, it's one of the cornerstones of the Western magical tradition, including what Joseph Smith was exposed to.
notHagoth7 Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 20 hours ago, Tsuzuki said: By the way, Steve Englehart (one of the main writers for Doctor Strange) is a member of Ordo Templi Orientis, the same occult fraternal order that I belong to. http://thelemanow.com/thelema-now-guest-steve-englehart-45-minutes- Is Steve responsible for the "worlds without number" verbiage in the early portions of the film? If so, is he LDS?
Meadowchik Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 On Tuesday, February 28, 2017 at 8:29 PM, cinepro said: A recent public sharing of a PowerPoint presentation presented to the Quorum of the 12 in December of 2015 lists these "issues and ideas" (and people) who are contributing to people leaving the Church. Interesting range of issues. And why is "Robert Norman" on the list? Is it this guy? I also think the use of the term "incredulity" is misused in regards to Church history: I don't know if it's intentional, but it misframes the issue many people have with LDS history. The problem isn't "incredulity", or "unwillingness to believe." It would probably be more correct to say they are "incapable of believing" based on the current evidence. For some, it is that they obtain knowledge within a reasonable margin of certainty that it's false. 1
Tsuzuki Posted March 18, 2017 Posted March 18, 2017 3 hours ago, notHagoth7 said: Is Steve responsible for the "worlds without number" verbiage in the early portions of the film? If so, is he LDS? Steve is an occultist, and an initiate of Aleister Crowley's magical fraternity, Ordo Templi Orientis, like myself. http://oto-usa.org Mormonism doesn't have a monopoly on exaltation or worlds without end. It actually borrowed those ideas from occultism.
The Nehor Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 On 3/18/2017 at 3:18 AM, Tsuzuki said: It's a pity you abandoned your plan. It didn't entirely die in committee. On the contrary, it's one of the cornerstones of the Western magical tradition, including what Joseph Smith was exposed to. Then I can only assume western magical tradition is filled with terrible people.
Tsuzuki Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Then I can only assume western magical tradition is filled with terrible people. It's got Joseph Smith in it. 1
The Nehor Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tsuzuki said: It's got Joseph Smith in it. Sadly no, if he was I would be learning demonic summoning and binding ritual in church. I am as disappointed as you are.
probablyHagoth7 Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tsuzuki said: It's got Joseph Smith in it. (I think you failed to appreciate Nehor's sapier sarcasm.)
The Nehor Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, probablyHagoth7 said: (I think you failed to appreciate Nehor's sapier sarcasm.) False dichotomy, both could be true.
probablyHagoth7 Posted March 19, 2017 Posted March 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Nehor said: False dichotomy, both could be true. (I thought that was supposed to be our little mutual secret...to keep the rest off balance...) ?
Tsuzuki Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Nehor said: Sadly no, if he was I would be learning demonic summoning and binding ritual in church. I am as disappointed as you are. You should have been selectively attending to the right obscure semi-doctrines, like I was. My own Mormon experience prepared me for Aleister Crowley, and it was a very smooth transition. And I'm not by any measure the only one. O.T.O. membership is disproportionately Mormon raised, and we deserve a place on that threat Power Point. Edited March 20, 2017 by Tsuzuki
Calm Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, Tsuzuki said: You should have been selectively attending to the right obscure semi-doctrines, like I was. My own Mormon experience prepared me for Aleister Crowley, and it was a very smooth transition. And I'm not by any measure the only one. O.T.O. membership is disproportionately Mormon raised, and we deserve a place on that threat Power Point. According to wiki, you have 1500 members in the US. If half are exmormon, that is 700. Unless you are having substantial impact in other countries, I doubt that your group rates that high on the disaffecting scale. Sorry.
Tsuzuki Posted March 20, 2017 Posted March 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, Calm said: According to wiki, you have 1500 members in the US. If half are exmormon, that is 700. Unless you are having substantial impact in other countries, I doubt that your group rates that high on the disaffecting scale. Sorry. We are growing.
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