Doctor Steuss Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Perhaps "hot drinks" should've meant just that... drinks that are hot. Quote ...the review by a panel of global experts stated that drinking beverages at temperatures above 65 degrees Celsius -- 149 degrees Fahrenheit -- could cause people to develop cancer of their esophagus, the eighth most common form of cancer worldwide. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/coffee-tea-hot-drinks-cancer-risk/index.html I personally always let my coffee cool down (don't worry, it's for medicinal purposes). Same with herbal tea, and hot chocolate. Come to think of it... I don't even like my soup really hot. Are you jealous for my sake...., and all that jazz. 1
Gray Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Interesting. Maybe we should just go back to a literal reading of the WOW?
Doctor Steuss Posted June 15, 2016 Author Posted June 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gray said: Interesting. Maybe we should just go back to a literal reading of the WOW? Wouldn't be overly difficult (I think) if the Church were to ever decide to do so. The only contemporary supporting document for the current interpretation is JH Johnson's autobiographical entry.
JLHPROF Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Gray said: Interesting. Maybe we should just go back to a literal reading of the WOW? What makes us think God didn't intend what he said literally? Joseph Smith - What is the rule of interpretation? Just no interpretation at all. Understand it precisely as it reads. I have a key by which I understand the scriptures. I enquire, what was the question which drew out the answer, 1
Atheist Mormon Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 Quote Your Herbal Tea Might Be Killing You Quote This one is not good for me because I like to drink my coffee & tea rather hot. However the overall WoW directive was a hit (pure luck) since no one knew the harm of tobacco and the benefits of tea & coffee. I could never understand why coffee and tea was included in prohibition....I know Emma hated tobacco, rightly so...I used to work with a guy who used to chew around the clock, it smelled worst than bathroom.......
thesometimesaint Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 I wouldn't say that coffee and/or tea is good for anyone. Some people like them. Before I joined the Church I tried to get used to coffee. It took so much cream and sugar to make it taste good. I was better off drinking just the cream and sugar. 1
Gray Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 1 hour ago, JLHPROF said: What makes us think God didn't intend what he said literally? Joseph Smith - What is the rule of interpretation? Just no interpretation at all. Understand it precisely as it reads. I have a key by which I understand the scriptures. I enquire, what was the question which drew out the answer, As you know, I don't take that approach to scripture. However, in some instances a literal interpretation may lead to better results than other interpretations. In other cases a literal interpretation is the worst option!
Bernard Gui Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Doctor Steuss said: Perhaps "hot drinks" should've meant just that... drinks that are hot. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/coffee-tea-hot-drinks-cancer-risk/index.html I personally always let my coffee cool down (don't worry, it's for medicinal purposes). Same with herbal tea, and hot chocolate. Come to think of it... I don't even like my soup really hot. Are you jealous for my sake...., and all that jazz. When I was born and took my first breath, the air I breathed started killing me. 1
Guest Posted June 15, 2016 Posted June 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Doctor Steuss said: Perhaps "hot drinks" should've meant just that... drinks that are hot. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/coffee-tea-hot-drinks-cancer-risk/index.html I personally always let my coffee cool down (don't worry, it's for medicinal purposes). Same with herbal tea, and hot chocolate. Come to think of it... I don't even like my soup really hot. Are you jealous for my sake...., and all that jazz. Don't drink it, I think it is the doughnuts blocking my airways.
canard78 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 17 hours ago, Gray said: Interesting. Maybe we should just go back to a literal reading of the WOW? 15 hours ago, JLHPROF said: What makes us think God didn't intend what he said literally? Joseph Smith - What is the rule of interpretation? Just no interpretation at all. Understand it precisely as it reads. I have a key by which I understand the scriptures. I enquire, what was the question which drew out the answer, As long as they go the whole hog and only eat meat in winter/famine and bring back beer as an acceptable drinking option. As to the OP... Living is killing you... not just tea. 2
BlueDreams Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 The only thing my herbal tea is killing are my migraines (catnip tea, if anyone's curious) and nausea (ginger) and my sugar consumption (I make iced herbal tea for my drink since I hate water and put little to no sugar in it). Besides I don't drink any of them super hot. With cool mint tea, BD 2
Doctor Steuss Posted June 16, 2016 Author Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, canard78 said: As to the OP... Living is killing you... not just tea. True, but I'd rather not hasten my inevitable demise. Unless it somehow involves dragons... ...or cookies. Edited June 16, 2016 by Doctor Steuss 2
Gray Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, canard78 said: As long as they go the whole hog and only eat meat in winter/famine and bring back beer as an acceptable drinking option. As to the OP... Living is killing you... not just tea. Don't forget homemade wine! Edited June 16, 2016 by Gray 1
thesometimesaint Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Gray said: Don't forget homemade wine! So the only prophet was Joseph Smith. Interesting.
Gray Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 1 hour ago, thesometimesaint said: So the only prophet was Joseph Smith. Interesting. Hmm? I'm not sure what you mean
sdc999 Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 11 Every herb in the season thereof, ...... Willie Nelson's herb is top shelf. There's even a song about it so it must be true.
Bernard Gui Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) My mother Ancianita was the daughter of Mormon colony pioneers in Colorado. She had all kinds of home remedies. We always had a jug of sagebrush tea in the fridge. We picked the sagebrush out in the desert in northern New Mexico. I had to drink a glassful of sagebrush tea every day. Mom said it cured acne and a lot of other things. It tasted really really really nasty. Some say it even has spiritual qualities, but I never noticed them. I loved pouring a glass when friends came over, and then giving them a sip when they asked what it was. http://www.herballegacy.com/Bergeson_Medicinal.html Edited June 16, 2016 by Bernard Gui 3
The Nehor Posted June 16, 2016 Posted June 16, 2016 On 6/15/2016 at 9:03 AM, Doctor Steuss said: Perhaps "hot drinks" should've meant just that... drinks that are hot. Psssh. I do not want to give up my patented "Diabetes Cocoa" (whole milk, white chocolate powder, scoop of vanilla Blue Bell ice cream, and caramel sauce). On 6/15/2016 at 9:30 AM, Gray said: Interesting. Maybe we should just go back to a literal reading of the WOW? I see what you did there. Beer and 9 months a year Vegetarianism for all! 4
Teancum Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 Glad I don't drink herbal tea. Now green tea, well i love it and drink it. It is so good for you.
Jeanne Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: My mother Ancianita was the daughter of Mormon colony pioneers in Colorado. She had all kinds of home remedies. We always had a jug of sagebrush tea in the fridge. We picked the sagebrush out in the desert in northern New Mexico. I had to drink a glassful of sagebrush tea every day. Mom said it cured acne and a lot of other things. It tasted really really really nasty. Some say it even has spiritual qualities, but I never noticed them. I loved pouring a glass when friends came over, and then giving them a sip when they asked what it was. http://www.herballegacy.com/Bergeson_Medicinal.html My cousin and I tried this. We called it Brigham tea. it was awful! Edited June 17, 2016 by Jeanne
Teancum Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) So is ice tea okay? Edited June 17, 2016 by Teancum
JLHPROF Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Teancum said: So is ice tea okay? It's ok with me. I think unsweetened ice tea is about the healthiest thing you can drink other than water. And it is the best on a hot day. And given the Church recent reaffirmation that the issue isn't caffeine I don't see how they can have an issue with iced tea. 1
jcake Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 My boss at work is also a bishop. So, even though a significant number of employees are non-members and drink coffee, none is provided at work. However, my boss does give us all the soda pop that we want. Based on what we know about the health benefits of coffee and tea, if not drunk hot or overused, and the health issues caused by drinking large quantities of soda, it seems to make little sense, this word of wisdom. Taking the WOW literally would appear to be inspired, since the health issues caused by drinking very hot drinks were not known in earlier times, and using moderation is a key to avoiding unhealthy habits. OW
sunstoned Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 On 6/15/2016 at 8:03 AM, Doctor Steuss said: Perhaps "hot drinks" should've meant just that... drinks that are hot. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/coffee-tea-hot-drinks-cancer-risk/index.html I personally always let my coffee cool down (don't worry, it's for medicinal purposes). Same with herbal tea, and hot chocolate. Come to think of it... I don't even like my soup really hot. Are you jealous for my sake...., and all that jazz. If there is tea in heaven, and I am sure there is, then it is Bergamont Cinnamon Black, steeped at 190 degrees for two and a half minutes. Let cool for three minutes. nuff said.
Bernard Gui Posted June 17, 2016 Posted June 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Jeanne said: My cousin and I tried this. We called it Brigham tea. it was awful! Brigham tea was made from what we called the Brigham bush. It was quite pleasant compared with sagebrush tea. http://www.herballegacy.com/Brigham_Tea.html 1
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