halconero Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 A sister pointed something out today in Sunday School that struck me quite hard, as trivial as it might seen. Peter's thrice-time denial of the Saviour is mirrored by his confirming of his love for Christ at the end of John. Christ gave him an opportunity to make up for those denials in his love for Peter, and by also commissioning him to safeguard his flock. 1
Duncan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Well, this brother was supposed to be talking about service but talked about the Phillipines and the economy and how the restoration was supposed to happen in the US-but all was not lost when this new family from kentucky, the lady talked about her post partum depression and at Christ's cross his friends, Mom were there and so sometimes all we can do for people is to show up and be there when people are suffering, that talk was amazing!!!
saemo Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 A sister pointed something out today in Sunday School that struck me quite hard, as trivial as it might seen. Peter's thrice-time denial of the Saviour is mirrored by his confirming of his love for Christ at the end of John. Christ gave him an opportunity to make up for those denials in his love for Peter, and by also commissioning him to safeguard his flock.God is a God of abundance. Jn 6:1-15
Nevo Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 A sister pointed something out today in Sunday School that struck me quite hard, as trivial as it might seen. Peter's thrice-time denial of the Saviour is mirrored by his confirming of his love for Christ at the end of John. Christ gave him an opportunity to make up for those denials in his love for Peter, and by also commissioning him to safeguard his flock. John intended people to connect the two scenes, with the "fire of coals" in 21:9 recalling the "fire of coals" in 18:18. 2
Mars Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 that a quasi irreverent sacrament meeting with 3 squirmy boys under the age of 6 is better than no sacrament at all 2
HappyJackWagon Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I learned that many in my HPG view the church's post SCOTUS ruling response to be akin to Captain Moroni raising his title of liberty and appreciate his take no prisoner approach. Fortunately though, they agreed that executing dissenters would be inappropriate in todays world. Whew... that was close.
jkwilliams Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I learned that many in my HPG view the church's post SCOTUS ruling response to be akin to Captain Moroni raising his title of liberty and appreciate his take no prisoner approach. Fortunately though, they agreed that executing dissenters would be inappropriate in todays world. Whew... that was close. This is why I don't go to high priests group meetings anymore. I can handle sacrament meeting but not high priests.
Buckeye Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I learned that the common teaching "abba = daddy" is false. Pretty much just another protestant notion that, while perhaps well intentioned, we should not have picked up. 1
ksfisher Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I learned that the common teaching "abba = daddy" is false. Pretty much just another protestant notion that, while perhaps well intentioned, we should not have picked up.So what does it mean?
jkwilliams Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 So what does it mean? I think it means something like this. 3
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) I think it means something like this. Deep.....real deep. For some reason I did not see the you tube link until I clicked to comment. I thought John was trying to be funny. Edited July 27, 2015 by Mola Ram Suda Ram
Zakuska Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) A sister pointed something out today in Sunday School that struck me quite hard, as trivial as it might seen. Peter's thrice-time denial of the Saviour is mirrored by his confirming of his love for Christ at the end of John. Christ gave him an opportunity to make up for those denials in his love for Peter, and by also commissioning him to safeguard his flock.It was brought up that when Christ informed Peter that he would deny him 3 times the grammatical structure was posited in the language of a command. "Thou Shalt deny me three times". Peter was willing to die for the Lord but Christ knew that would thwart the Atonement and so commanded Peter to deny him so he would not be killed along with him. Other wise... the "Upon this rock will I build my church" would also fail to come to pass as well. It was also brought up by another sister that Spence W. Kimball seemed to take this interpretation (ie. a command) when speaking about the episode. This also might tweak the context a little of .... "he went away and weeped bitterly". Edited July 27, 2015 by Zakuska
Duncan Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 It was brought up that when Christ informed Peter that he would deny him 3 times the grammatical structure was posited in the language of a command. "Thou Shalt deny me three times". Peter was willing to die for the Lord but Christ knew that would thwart the Atonement and so commanded Peter to deny him so he would not be killed along with him. Other wise... the "Upon this rock will I build my church" would also fail to come to pass as well. It was also brought up by another sister that Spence W. Kimball seemed to take this interpretation (ie. a command) when speaking about the episode. This also might tweak the context a little of .... "he went away and weeped bitterly". that has been said about Judas as well. To betray someone means to stab them in the back or to hand over or something or nuffin
St. Bookmark Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 We studied act 1-5 today I liked that the day of Pentecost was a day the Jews recived the Torah/ scriptures and the laws and then it turned into a day the Christians recived the Holy Ghost a guide in understanding the Torah/ scriptures.Also the the people heard the truth in there own tongues (17 different languages) but also heard and understood the doctrines in there purest form and those who did not have the spirit did not understand. ( we teach and learn by the spirit )Then I HPG we talked about the attributes of Christ and how we should do the same. 1
jkwilliams Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Deep.....real deep. For some reason I did not see the you tube link until I clicked to comment. I thought John was trying to be funny. Just me being silly. Sorry.
Buckeye Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) So what does it mean? It means "father" in a familiar sense, but not the sense that a child would utter. As an example, if I were to introduce my father to someone at church I would do so with a respectful tone and say "this is father." But I wouldn't say "this is my daddy." So when Christ uttered "abba" he was saying "Father", not "Daddy." Edited July 27, 2015 by Buckeye
The Nehor Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 I learned that many in my HPG view the church's post SCOTUS ruling response to be akin to Captain Moroni raising his title of liberty and appreciate his take no prisoner approach. Fortunately though, they agreed that executing dissenters would be inappropriate in todays world. Whew... that was close.Did they not notice that the dissenters in Moroni's case were actively in the field fighting against the government? 1
Avatar4321 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 We learned that inviting the spirit into our homes and loves is much like inviting anyone else. We have to make our lives and homes places where the spirit would feel welcome much like we would do for anyone else.Not a terribly unheard of truth but it resonated more this weekend. 1
Nevo Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 It was brought up that when Christ informed Peter that he would deny him 3 times the grammatical structure was posited in the language of a command. "Thou Shalt deny me three times". Peter was willing to die for the Lord but Christ knew that would thwart the Atonement and so commanded Peter to deny him so he would not be killed along with him. This is so wrong. Just sayin'
Okrahomer Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Also the the people heard the truth in there own tongues (17 different languages) but also heard and understood the doctrines in there purest form and those who did not have the spirit did not understand. ( we teach and learn by the spirit ) That was important to me as well. For some reason, it had never occurred to me that there were people from other nations present.
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