Religious Freedom Forum Fireside

[sunstoned]

I have never had a serious debate with you. You do not debate. You endlessly assert.

Bingo

[The Nehor]

And you endlessly...well, nevermind

Oh, you edited out that I endlessly hack. I was excited that finally someone finally called me a hacker......

[Rob Osborn]

Oh, you edited out that I endlessly hack. I was excited that finally someone finally called me a hacker......

Decided not to be mean- had a change of heart my brother.

[The Nehor]

Decided not to be mean- had a change of heart my brother.

But it was a compliment.

[Kenngo1969]

Would it be more appropriate to say that people who subscribe to Ayn Rands philosophies also agree with some of the basic tenants of Satanism?

The word you're looking for is tenet.  A tenant is someone who lives, or does business in, a rented space.  Just sayin'!

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tenet?s=t (Dictionary.reference.com, s.v. "tenet")

 

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tenant?s=t (Dictionary.reference.com, s.v. "tenant")

[thesometimesaint]

Dictionaries are wonderful things. Sometimes,

[thesometimesaint]

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs".

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

[ERayR]

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs".

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand

 

Sorry you were damaged by a classic.

[thesometimesaint]

Sorry you were damaged by a classic.

 

I've read both. John Galt is as fictional as Shelob, and Shelob has the better personality.

[ERayR]

I've read both. John Galt is as fictional as Shelob, and Shelob has the better personality.

 

No body is arguing that.  Both are are now classics.  I personally get nothing from Tolkien.  Atlas Shrugged gave me something to meditate on.

Edited January 17, 2015 by ERayR

[The Nehor]

 

As a teenager I found myself liking Ayn Rand but later I realized it was an appeal to my baser instincts. The idea that I was superior to others, that the reason my greatness went unrecognized was because society's leeches were holding me back, and that I deserved everything I had in life.

 

Later I realized that I am a normal person with faults and gifts in roughly equal measure, that the reason my greatness is unrecognized is that it is not really there, and that everything I have is a gift from God and I merit nothing.

 

I dated a girl who loved Ayn Rand. I should have run faster and sooner. Still have a few scars from that one.

[ERayR]

As a teenager I found myself liking Ayn Rand but later I realized it was an appeal to my baser instincts. The idea that I was superior to others, that the reason my greatness went unrecognized was because society's leeches were holding me back, and that I deserved everything I had in life.

 

Later I realized that I am a normal person with faults and gifts in roughly equal measure, that the reason my greatness is unrecognized is that it is not really there, and that everything I have is a gift from God and I merit nothing.

 

I dated a girl who loved Ayn Rand. I should have run faster and sooner. Still have a few scars from that one.

 

I didn't say I bought Rands philosophy.  I said it gave me something to meditate on and Tolkien reminded me of Mark Twain's description of the Book of Mormon.

[The Nehor]

I didn't say I bought Rands philosophy.  I said it gave me something to meditate on and Tolkien reminded me of Mark Twain's description of the Book of Mormon.

 

I did not say you did buy it. Even if I was it was an insult directed at me as well if it was. I bought much of it when I was young.

 

As for Tolkien, I challenge you to a duel to settle this.

[ERayR]

I did not say you did buy it. Even if I was it was an insult directed at me as well if it was. I bought much of it when I was young.

 

As for Tolkien, I challenge you to a duel to settle this.

 

Okay with weapons from my youth.  Spit balls at 40 paces.

[The Nehor]

Okay with weapons from my youth.  Spit balls at 40 paces.

 

Either you have incredibly impressive range or are trying to duck out. Well played.

[ERayR]

Either you have incredibly impressive range or are trying to duck out. Well played.

 

Some of both.

[tonie]

No.  How did you come to that conclusion?

 

I came in late.  Were you only responding to Rob?

 

Aton Lavey - author of satanic writtings - stated, his satanism is "just Ayn Rand's philosophy, with ceremony and ritual added"