Religious Freedom Forum Fireside

[Rob Osborn]

And I did not say that either.

then what are you saying?

[The Nehor]

then what are you saying?

Excuse me. I need to go bang my head against a wall.

[The Nehor]

then what are you saying?

 

Okay, one more time. This is what I said:

 

Actually the so-called Christian Right and the Church of Satan actually agree on quite a bit.

[Rob Osborn]

Okay, one more time. This is what I said:

 

Actually the so-called Christian Right and the Church of Satan actually agree on quite a bit.

um...no they dont.

[The Nehor]

um...no they dont.

 

Um....yes they do.

[Rob Osborn]

Um....yes they do.

CFR

[The Nehor]

CFR

 

[Rob Osborn]

Funny stuff I guess. Never mind, I know you are just joking around now, heh heh.

[sunstoned]

The studies you read are wrong, plain and simple. I will do everything in my power to defend traditional families which is Gods plan. Satans plan is to destroy the family. SSM is part of Satans plan.

Nothing like keeping an open mind.  

[The Nehor]

Funny stuff I guess. Never mind, I know you are just joking around now, heh heh.

No, I was serious and presented it in a funny way.

[Rob Osborn]

No, I was serious and presented it in a funny way.

Oh, I will disregard the CFR then.

[The Nehor]

Oh, I will disregard the CFR then.

 

Fair enough, I was tempted to disregard your CFR too.

[tonie]

Would it be more appropriate to say that people who subscribe to Ayn Rands philosophies also agree with some of the basic tenants of Satanism?

[Rob Osborn]

Would it be more appropriate to say that people who subscribe to Ayn Rands philosophies also agree with some of the basic tenants of Satanism?

yeah, sounds about right

[The Nehor]

Would it be more appropriate to say that people who subscribe to Ayn Rands philosophies also agree with some of the basic tenants of Satanism?

And Ayn Rand has been and continues to be a favorite of the political Right. Therefore they are satanists. The Left does too. It is harsh to call people satanists but don't we all have a little satanism in us? Would not the world be a better place if we could all embrace ourselves and rejoice together as satanists and sing "Oh what a Wonderful World we Live In"?

[Rob Osborn]

And Ayn Rand has been and continues to be a favorite of the political Right. Therefore they are satanists. The Left does too. It is harsh to call people satanists but don't we all have a little satanism in us? Would not the world be a better place if we could all embrace ourselves and rejoice together as satanists and sing "Oh what a Wonderful World we Live In"?

I dont believe that Ayn Rand is a favorite of the right wing. CFR

[The Nehor]

I dont believe that Ayn Rand is a favorite of the right wing. CFR

See my image above where the Republican vice presidential candidate endorses her.

[Rob Osborn]

See my image above where the Republican vice presidential candidate endorses her.

One single person isnt the right wing. Try again.

[The Nehor]

One single person isnt the right wing. Try again.

No, I can pull up articles that say so and you will call them biased. I could pull up sales figures of the book to show a general increase. I can show you who made a movie out of it and what their views are and how right-wing radio offen endorses her and you will ignore it. There. Look up those things. Do your own research.

[Rob Osborn]

No, I can pull up articles that say so and you will call them biased. I could pull up sales figures of the book to show a general increase. I can show you who made a movie out of it and what their views are and how right-wing radio offen endorses her and you will ignore it. There. Look up those things. Do your own research.

Problem is, I dont trust the Nehor. We can joke about it or you can provide real serios links. take your pick. Either way I dont care- we can seriously debate this or joke around- dont really care one way or the other.

[ERayR]

Would it be more appropriate to say that people who subscribe to Ayn Rands philosophies also agree with some of the basic tenants of Satanism?

 

No.  How did you come to that conclusion?

 

I came in late.  Were you only responding to Rob?

Edited January 16, 2015 by ERayR

[carbon dioxide]

The video (the second on in my OP) talks about religious freedom being more than being able to believe what you want (as you correctly noted)... it describes being able to publicly manifest and live according to those beliefs.  Given that, consider this...

 

Church A believes that marriage is only between a man and a woman and is permitted to perform legally recognized marriages consistent with that belief.

 

Church B believes that marriage is between any two adults but they are not permitted to perform legally recognized marriage consistent with that belief.

 

I know you don't see that as a problem but that does not seem like religious freedom for Church B to me.

You forgot Church C that believes marriage is between a man and multiple women but are not permitted to perform legally recognized marriages consistent with that belief. 

[The Nehor]

Problem is, I dont trust the Nehor. We can joke about it or you can provide real serios links. take your pick. Either way I dont care- we can seriously debate this or joke around- dont really care one way or the other.

I have never had a serious debate with you. You do not debate. You endlessly assert.

[rockpond]

You forgot Church C that believes marriage is between a man and multiple women but are not permitted to perform legally recognized marriages consistent with that belief. 

 

Correct.

[Rob Osborn]

I have never had a serious debate with you. You do not debate. You endlessly assert.

And you endlessly...well, nevermind

Edited January 17, 2015 by Rob Osborn