VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I said the point was having posterity and being an eternal father.
ERayR Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I said the point was having posterity and being an eternal father. .OK
omni Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Anyone who thinks that "getting your own planet" is logically equivalent to "organizing worlds" gets an F in my logic class.Then please explain - in my thirty plus years right here in the heart of Zion I have never heard it described in any other way. 1
Popular Post Scott Lloyd Posted September 15, 2014 Popular Post Posted September 15, 2014 Then please explain - in my thirty plus years right here in the heart of Zion I have never heard it described in any other way.Sad to have spent more than 30 years in Zion and not to have read the scriptures. 5
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I wish the GAs would touch more on this subject so we wouldn't have such confusion. Lorenzo Snow and Joseph Smith seemed to believe in exaltation though.
LOSTONE Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I have my own planet. I am on it right now many will easily say. But back to your point. Regradless of what Mormons believe, if it's out in the mdia, it is subject to misinteriptation and insults like so many things in mida lan are. Sadm but true. Best to do is to honor your believes.
Guest Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 So I get an F in mfbukowski's logic class? Then what is the point and blessings of exaltation?To live with God and our families and not go to hell. How much posterity do you plan on.
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 In this life I have no posterity yet, but I hope to have lots of posterity in the eternities.
Guest Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 In this life I have no posterity yet, but I hope to have lots of posterity in the eternities.There are enough worlds for anyone to have billions each. Not to mention the sermon in which from with people infer this from is not Scripture, nor ever will be.
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 But don't what prophets say count as scripture? I mean isn't General Conferences and stuff from Thomas S Monson modern day scripture?
Traela Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 It seems to me that "getting our own planet" is shorthand for "we're promised that we can be like God but we can't comprehend what that will actually entail, so let's cut it down to something manageable and wouldn't it be cool if people were descended from tigers instead of apes?" 3
Scott Lloyd Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I wish the GAs would touch more on this subject so we wouldn't have such confusion. Lorenzo Snow and Joseph Smith seemed to believe in exaltation though.I wish the GAs would touch more on this subject so we wouldn't have such confusion. Lorenzo Snow and Joseph Smith seemed to believe in exaltation though.Perhaps the GAs are being careful not to cause folklore to spread such as "getting your own planet." 1
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well maybe we don't get our own planet, but we help God in creating His multiple worlds and we have a part in it. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Well maybe we don't get our own planet, but we help God in creating His multiple worlds and we have a part in it.Well said. 1
Kenngo1969 Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I think I'll work on getting 100% home teaching first, thanks! 3
mfbukowski Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Only one question, but why? I know that I would never want this. I don't either really, but I DO want to do the most I can to help as many people as possible to be happy, and that is God's plan for h,is children and I am one of his children. I DO believe in the "Plan of Happiness" and I want to participate in his plan to my fullest ability. THAT is my personal goal. I want to please my father 3
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) I still ask this, but how can anyone not want this? It seems so wonderful and glorious. I believe in heaven we'll be able to handle the responsibility and have eternity to learn how to do it. Edited September 15, 2014 by VideoGameJunkie
Popular Post mfbukowski Posted September 15, 2014 Popular Post Posted September 15, 2014 Well the whole point of exaltation is to have posterity. There needs to be a place for our posterity. If our posterity shares a world with other people's posterity I do not know, but I believe we at least get to help in the creation of worlds.Totally agreed. But "getting my own world" sounds like you "get" to play games with all your little people toys and watch them jump around to your will. "Organizing worlds", plural, has a totally different connotation. You are giving organization and a plan to perhaps millions of people you can help to achieve exaltation. One implies being a control freak, the other implies serving and helping as many people as you can. I see that as a big difference. 9
mfbukowski Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Then please explain - in my thirty plus years right here in the heart of Zion I have never heard it described in any other way.Then get out of the heart of Zion. It's false doctrine and I have NEVER heard those words in church once- just from anti Mormons 4
mfbukowski Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I have my own planet. I am on it right now many will easily say. But back to your point. Regradless of what Mormons believe, if it's out in the mdia, it is subject to misinteriptation and insults like so many things in mida lan are. Sadm but true. Best to do is to honor your believes.Huh?
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I agree mfbukowski. That's why the more I think about what exaltation entails, the more it sounds like we'll just be helping God with His worlds and we'll HELP run them, but not own them all to ourselves and our spouses, but we'll feel the same joy that He does when our spirit children are exalted and return home.
mfbukowski Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 I still ask this, but how can anyone not want this? It seems so wonderful and glorious. I believe in heaven we'll be able to handle the responsibility and have eternity to learn how to do it.To me, it is the greatest blessing I can imagine. I don't know who would not want to have a loving family of thousands! God is love and love is what makes families. You cannot separate one from the other.
JLHPROF Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 There are enough worlds for anyone to have billions each. Not to mention the sermon in which from with people infer this from is not Scripture, nor ever will be.
EllenMaksoud Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 We've discussed in the past the idea that Mormons believe that we will get our "own planet". This idea is still being portrayed to packed houses of theater goers in The Book of Mormon broadway musical, and there has been some debate on whether or not this is a valid representation of LDS belief. I recently came across this quote which I had never seen before. It's a teaching from President Lorenzo Snow, as published in this manual.President Snow was visiting a Kindergarten with BY Academy President Brimhall when this happened: So while I can understand that many LDS don't like the idea or are hesitant to admit it is a "church teaching", I don't think we can argue that anyone who says it is is being disingenuous.This is part of a set of doctrines that I struggle with. However when I think about the other things I see happening within the church, I keep my peace.
Scott Stevenson Posted September 15, 2014 Posted September 15, 2014 Then get out of the heart of Zion. It's false doctrine and I have NEVER heard those words in church once- just from anti MormonsI think saying "getting your own planet" is the linguistic equivalent of saying "magic underwear". It's not so much technically wrong as it's not the language Mormons use. It sounds too crude or simplistic. Mormons don't typically like outsiders using outsider terminology. 1
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