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Apparently, those appointed to 'watch over' the FLDS UEP Trust have some of their own issues with misappropriating funds and sex.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58271847-78/wisan-trust-misdemeanor-woman.html.csp


Shurtleff and now Wisan... why wouldn't the FLDS people trust the fine governments of Utah and Arizona?

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If that affects ones ability to handle his fiduciary responsibilities then a large portion of the CEO's and CFO's in the world are in the same boat.  Was he using trust funds to carry on his lifestyle?  As long as he does not confuse trust money as personal.

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Oh, the irony...

The FLDS marry additional wives (virgins according to D&C 132) with the knowledge and consent of their first wife (again D&C 132).

The man deemed worthy enough by the state to overlook their funds sneaks around behind his wife's back with a prostitute, possibly bringing back heaven-knows-what kind of disease to his wife.

 

Specks and logs... specks and logs.

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Oh, the irony...

The FLDS marry additional wives (virgins according to D&C 132) with the knowledge and consent of their first wife (again D&C 132).

The man deemed worthy enough by the state to overlook their funds sneaks around behind his wife's back with a prostitute, possibly bringing back heaven-knows-what kind of disease to his wife.

 

Specks and logs... specks and logs.

 

But it appears the state may not deem him fit to manage the funds.  If they don't no irony there.  What is striking to me is that the state thinks it has the right to impose the religious and moral standards of someone in an oversight position on both entities.

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Apparently, those appointed to 'watch over' the FLDS UEP Trust have some of their own issues with misappropriating funds and sex.http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58271847-78/wisan-trust-misdemeanor-woman.html.csp

Shurtleff and now Wisan... why wouldn't the FLDS people trust the fine governments of Utah and Arizona?

If he is not a member of our faith why do we need to know? If he is why do we need to know? Disappointing to think we need too.
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Apparently, those appointed to 'watch over' the FLDS UEP Trust have some of their own issues with misappropriating funds and sex.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58271847-78/wisan-trust-misdemeanor-woman.html.csp

Shurtleff and now Wisan... why wouldn't the FLDS people trust the fine governments of Utah and Arizona?

I have thought of renting a prostitute for a few hours so I could sit down with her and get her to teach me why she does it? But after the last 10 years, I think I know why. I don't think it is about the sex, they just need something to eat and a place to sleep. And with the kind of psychological abuse that many women face, perhaps it is the only way they feel they can get approval.

 

I once had a friend who knew a prostitute and he told me that she told him that a big part of her clientele just wanted to talk, no sex.  I wonder if going to one is less stigmatizing than seeing a Mental Health counselor?

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I hate patronizing people.

Perhaps I am moving off topic. But maybe that isn't such a bad idea.

 

Come to where I work, please, The Nehor. Be my bosses. I hate being patronized. As much as I am sorry if a prostitute was patronized...at least it was welcome...I get patronized all the time. Do I want to be "driver of the month", or get little "kudo" notes saying how Rory takes care of his customers? No. Because right behind it is "Hey old man with two back surgeries, since we trust you, since you are so capable, how 'bout you go live in a motel and fill out a bunch of stupid expense forms and cover for some guy on vacation instead of any of the other 99% of employees with less seniority." You hate patronizing? Not as much as I hate being patronized I'll wager. It never comes without an agenda.

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Perhaps I am moving off topic. But maybe that isn't such a bad idea.

 

Come to where I work, please, The Nehor. Be my bosses. I hate being patronized. As much as I am sorry if a prostitute was patronized...at least it was welcome...I get patronized all the time. Do I want to be "driver of the month", or get little "kudo" notes saying how Rory takes care of his customers? No. Because right behind it is "Hey old man with two back surgeries, since we trust you, since you are so capable, how 'bout you go live in a motel and fill out a bunch of stupid expense forms and cover for some guy on vacation instead of any of the other 99% of employees with less seniority." You hate patronizing? Not as much as I hate being patronized I'll wager. It never comes without an agenda.

 

My boss (our Sales VP with a ton of experience) taught me an important lesson about patronizing without real rewards. We are bringing on rep groups to sell our products and he told me the first time he brought one on at another company he measured their sales and at the end of the year gave a plaque to the highest seller. The rep looked at the plaque and asked how much it cost. My boss was confused but was then told next time to not buy the plaque and just give whatever he felt the achievement was worth to him in cash. That is how we reward high sellers now.

 

I like getting praise from my boss and from people I work with but if my boss is praising me and hasn't given me a raise lately I know exactly how much he really values me.

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I have thought of renting a prostitute for a few hours so I could sit down with her and get her to teach me why she does it? But after the last 10 years, I think I know why. I don't think it is about the sex, they just need something to eat and a place to sleep. And with the kind of psychological abuse that many women face, perhaps it is the only way they feel they can get approval.

 

I once had a friend who knew a prostitute and he told me that she told him that a big part of her clientele just wanted to talk, no sex.  I wonder if going to one is less stigmatizing than seeing a Mental Health counselor?

 

I advise against it. Most prostitutes hate their job and those who don't are usually crazy. It's about the income.

 

For the last it is not that the guys want a counselor. They just want a feeling of emotional intimacy with someone they are attracted to. A prostitute I knew said she often had clients come in to just vent while being held or seeking solace when a loved one or maybe a pet died. It is a kind of surrogate relationship. A counselor is there to help you fix yourself. They just want someone to pay attention. It's kind of sad.

 

And yes, I know a lot of really strange people. ;)

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I advise against it. Most prostitutes hate their job and those who don't are usually crazy. It's about the income.

 

For the last it is not that the guys want a counselor. They just want a feeling of emotional intimacy with someone they are attracted to. A prostitute I knew said she often had clients come in to just vent while being held or seeking solace when a loved one or maybe a pet died. It is a kind of surrogate relationship. A counselor is there to help you fix yourself. They just want someone to pay attention. It's kind of sad.

 

And yes, I know a lot of really strange people. ;)

Before the Mormons, I had not been touched or held for years. I recently wrote a short story about a retired woman who paid a male escort to take her out to dinner for no other reason than she just wanted some company. I write romances, so naturally he eventually carried her off to Arabia and made her his princess. :)

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Before the Mormons, I had not been touched or held for years. I recently wrote a short story about a retired woman who paid a male escort to take her out to dinner for no other reason than she just wanted some company. I write romances, so naturally he eventually carried her off to Arabia and made her his princess. :)

 

One of the things I most lament about being LDS is that I cannot break into the erotica/porn literature market. It is pretty lucrative right now and you don't even have to be that good of a writer. I know a guy making three to four thousand dollars a month off residuals selling his stuff on Amazon. Alas, it offends the Holy Ghost and probably would corrupt me so I will have to make my money other ways.

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The rep looked at the plaque and asked how much it cost. My boss was confused but was then told next time to not buy the plaque and just give whatever he felt the achievement was worth to him in cash. That is how we reward high sellers now.

 

Educators are horrible about handing out award stuff.  I put the first few my husband got up with pride, now it is 'how long do we have to keep it before it can be tossed' unless it can work as a really nice looking bookend or paper weight.  

 

Got to wonder how much money goes down the drain for this kind of stuff.  Much rather get a check myself or maybe a gift certificate to a restaurant…something that can be used.

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One of the things I most lament about being LDS is that I cannot break into the erotica/porn literature market. It is pretty lucrative right now and you don't even have to be that good of a writer. I know a guy making three to four thousand dollars a month off residuals selling his stuff on Amazon. Alas, it offends the Holy Ghost and probably would corrupt me so I will have to make my money other ways.

I've had an epiphany about writing that surprises me. Makes me know that God is guiding me. I have never written actual porn but I most of my stories have been in a genre that the general public might not understand. After I was baptized, I did not write again for a long time. Now, I feel like writing again and it will be of the genre of David Weber, or Anne McCaffery, though not plagiaristic. I will write nothing that displeases God any more.

 

The uncomfortable thing about writing now is that I have just moved and don't have my "Nest" built. The ambience is not right. It takes a lot to write. One has to get in the right frame of mind, or get into sort of a Zen state. When that has happened, some times I have written all night long.

 

Oops I just realized that this is not PM and some one is bound to say I derailed a discussion. So if we wanna talk any more perhaps it should be by PM. :)

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Educators are horrible about handing out award stuff. I put the first few my husband got up with pride, now it is 'how long do we have to keep it before it can be tossed' unless it can work as a really nice looking bookend or paper weight.

Got to wonder how much money goes down the drain for this kind of stuff. Much rather get a check myself or maybe a gift certificate to a restaurant…something that can be used.

Our high school is pretty good with that. Usually movie passes or a gift certificate to a restaurant. The "students' favorite teacher" award is usually a candy bar. :) One year the district got some money to experiment with merit pay. A few dozen teachers in various categories got nice fat checks. (The union was Not Pleased. They thought the money should have been divided evenly among all the teachers, because all teachers are wonderful. *eyeroll*)
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The money I was paid as a teacher allowed me to survive. The times when a former student would see me on the street and stop me to thank me for helping them or inspiring them was a real ' reward' . Corny as it may sound.

Merit pay is a mistake. It fosters resentments and jealousy and teaching to the test. Children are not widgets and bonuses should not be given on how many you ' sold'.

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Educators are horrible about handing out award stuff.  I put the first few my husband got up with pride, now it is 'how long do we have to keep it before it can be tossed' unless it can work as a really nice looking bookend or paper weight.  

 

Got to wonder how much money goes down the drain for this kind of stuff.  Much rather get a check myself or maybe a gift certificate to a restaurant…something that can be used.

 

To be fair, "driver of the month" used to get a $50 gift card at Home Depot, Fred Meyer, or some other place where you let the card expire. But that was the good 'ol days. Now...you get to be... "driver of the month". Whoopee. I see some of the young guys brighten up at it. The new generation is so not cynical. Like how many years and months have I worked here and in what way did I do anything differently last month as "driver of the month" than all the times I wasn't? It is just so insulting the way they think they can motivate you with slogans and pats on the back. Just leave me alone, quit giving me compliments, and let me finish this purgatory on earth in peace.

 

PS: Edited to add...sorry for being so cranky last night. I have been struggling with things at work lately. I know it is my fault. I distort and magnify perceived injustices against me at work and I just have to bring God with me or else I bring the devil! Anyway, I think the devil got the best of me last night. Hopefully, I won't let the "sun go down on my wrath" tonight. (Epistle reading for 19th Sunday after Pentecost...tomorrow's Mass)

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