I Attended The Afternoon Session Today.

[Thinking]

My son is in the choir that sang in the afternoon session today so my wife secured tickets and we attended. We sat in the balcony and during the last song there were many people (mostly in the balcony) who got up and left. When I noticed the people leaving from the balcony, I looked down to the floor and didn't notice anybody leaving. I don't know what the solution is to that kind of behavior, but I thought it was extremely disrespectful.

[JLHPROF]

My son is in the choir that sang in the afternoon session today so my wife secured tickets and we attended. We sat in the balcony and during the last song there were many people (mostly in the balcony) who got up and left. When I noticed the people leaving from the balcony, I looked down to the floor and didn't notice anybody leaving. I don't know what the solution is to that kind of behavior, but I thought it was extremely disrespectful.

 

Agreed -

"President Joseph Smith said: "As president of this house, I forbid any man leaving just as we are going to close the meeting. He is no gentleman who will do it. I don't care who does it, even if it were the king of England. I forbid it."

and

"President Joseph Smith stated that the business of the conference had closed, and the remainder would be devoted to instruction. It is an insult to a meeting for persons to leave just before its close. If they must go out, let them go half an hour before. No gentlemen will go out of a meeting just at closing."

[bluebell]

It IS disrespectful, though I'm sure none if them intended such.

It's just like when people start packing up their bags and scriptures and stop really listening at the end of church meetings when the can tell the teacher or speaker is almost done.

[Calm]

My son is in the choir that sang in the afternoon session today so my wife secured tickets and we attended. We sat in the balcony and during the last song there were many people (mostly in the balcony) who got up and left. When I noticed the people leaving from the balcony, I looked down to the floor and didn't notice anybody leaving. I don't know what the solution is to that kind of behavior, but I thought it was extremely disrespectful.

Is this common for other subcultures in our society? People disconnecting and moving on to the next thing to do in their minds and body before the actual finish of what they are doing right then?

I wonder how much of this is due to feeling pressured by busy lives or just an inability to not be entertained 24/7 and moving on as soon as something gets predictable in its ending....

I always felt really bad for sports teams when peope start leaving because they see the rest of the game as having no significance. Must be hard to maintain full commitment to something when supporters are bailing on you.

How totally rude to place the importance of beating traffic over the sacredness of the shared experience. In a way I feel like these guys have a worst attitude towards treating temple square, etc with respect than the OW group for being willing to put their own cause as more important than respecting the views of others on what a gathering of Saints signifies.

Edited April 6, 2014 by calmoriah

[3DOP]

This is NOT intended for the purpose of judging our fellow parishioners/church members. But there has been an amusing expression that has been used in some Catholic circles that reflects people anxious about getting out of Mass as quick as possible. "The Judas Shuffle" refers to how it is thought that Judas took off immediately at the end of our Lord's Supper (as you would call it), and missed the washing of the disciple's feet, in his haste to do something else (betray our Lord). Mormons are not the only ones who have folks eager to bolt. Assuredly, in neither tradition are the motives necessarily as malicious as the disciple who was so eager to get going on Holy Thursday. Nevertheless, it gives one pause to consider that perhaps we should "treasure the moment", before hastening to our this-worldly objectives.

 

3DOP 

[Calm]

"Judas Shuffle"

Choice!

[rpn]

Or maybe they were people who cannot deal with the crowds, or who annoy others because  they walk too slowly, or who  need to make a certain train connection (and they couldn't draw themselves away from the inspired instruction)?

[bluebell]

In this instance, I would imagine that the people leaving were simply trying to beat the rush and make getting out in traffic and everything easier.

[Tacenda]

Wow what does everyone think about Elder Bednard mentioning that April 6th is the actual date of the birth of our Saviour? Along with the date of the organization of the church? That's good with me, because April 6th is my mom's b-day!!

[3DOP]

Wow what does everyone think about Elder Bednard mentioning that April 6th is the actual date of the birth of our Saviour? Along with the date of the organization of the church? That's good with me, because April 6th is my mom's b-day!!

 

Merry Christmas to you. Deck the Halls with boughs of holly in April...if that is what you believe.

 

I have presented the way the CathoIic Church has arrived at the date for Dec. 25 a half dozen times over the years. It was nothing to do with a desire to worship Sol.

 

I have never understood why people who complain that Christmas on Dec. 25 is corrupted because it is really in honor of the Sun in the sky, would copy the practise anyway.

 

Rory

 

PS: I am only talking about the complainers, not you Tacenda. One can have doubts about Dec. 25th and be neutral about it. Those who say Dec. 25th has an evil connection with paganism should quit celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25th.

Edited April 6, 2014 by 3DOP

[Calm]

Or maybe they were people who cannot deal with the crowds, or who annoy others because  they walk too slowly, or who  need to make a certain train connection (and they couldn't draw themselves away from the inspired instruction)?

That there was a significant difference between balcony behaviour and the lower area leads me to assume it was a choice of convenience whatever the reason (I would never assume the reason for an individual given that I myself am often forced to get up and leave the chapel due to my movement/sleep disorder, but total group behaviour can compare balcony to lower area whatever that is called to draw a likely conclusion IMO).

[Tacenda]

Merry Christmas to you. Deck the Halls with boughs of holly in April...if that is what you believe.

I have presented the way the CathoIic Church has arrived at the date for Dec. 25 a half dozen times over the years. It was nothing to do with a desire to worship Sol.

I have never understood why people who complain that Christmas on Dec. 25 is corrupted because it is really in honor of the Sun in the sky, would copy the practise anyway.

Rory

PS: I am only talking about the complainers, not you Tacenda. One can have doubts about Dec. 25th and be neutral about it. Those who say Dec. 25th has an evil connection with paganism should quit celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25th.

I'm also good with Dec. 25th, was just trying to point out what Elder Bednar had said as nicely as possibly. But see it's being hashed out on two other threads, which I could not start.

[wenglund]

My son is in the choir that sang in the afternoon session today so my wife secured tickets and we attended. We sat in the balcony and during the last song there were many people (mostly in the balcony) who got up and left. When I noticed the people leaving from the balcony, I looked down to the floor and didn't notice anybody leaving. I don't know what the solution is to that kind of behavior, but I thought it was extremely disrespectful.

 

I can't speak for others, but it is not uncommon for me to leave early from large Church gatherings because it is far more manageable to transport my aged and handicapped mother in her wheel chair to car absent the throng. It also helps to beat the traffic so as to minimize the length of time my mothers legs may go without exercise and elevation.

 

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[Thinking]

I can't speak for others, but it is not uncommon for me to leave early from large Church gatherings because it is far more manageable to transport my aged and handicapped mother in her wheel chair to car absent the throng. It also helps to beat the traffic so as to minimize the length of time my mothers legs may go without exercise and elevation.

 

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

 

Agreed.

 

The interesting thing about what I witnessed is that after the prayer, the side exits were opened and we were out the door in less than 5 minutes. In fact, we arrived home (Provo) by 3 pm.