Utah Most Charitable State

[Avatar4321]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/12/pf/charitable-states/index.html

thought some people would be interested

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/12/pf/charitable-states/index.html

thought some people would be interested

Those "cultist" are hard to figure, huh. Here we thought it was all about Malls? Don't ya hate when that happens?

[The Nehor]

The usual rebuttal is that since tithing counts as charity we are in fact not charitable at all and are just trying to survuve the Second Coming. I do not agree with them but I am sure someone will be along shortly to share it if I have not already disarmed them.

[Calm]

The usual rebuttal is that since tithing counts as charity we are in fact not charitable at all and are just trying to survuve the Second Coming. I do not agree with them but I am sure someone will be along shortly to share it if I have not already disarmed them.

Haven't read the article, but IIRC even with all church donations removed (which would also be fast offerings and other humanitarian through the Church), the study I read says LDS still are on the high end of charitable giving.

[Avatar4321]

If the charitable giving includes tithing than Utah should be much higher.

[rpn]

So if only 50% of Utahns are LDS (do Utah's other faiths also collect tithing?), and if fewer than half (I've heard numbers as low as 30% as full tithepayers), and the average income in the state is just over 50K, then the 10.4% is seriously impressive.

[Tacenda]

Personally speaking, my husband would say our tithes & fast offerings were enough to donate for charities. But I would donate to Primary Children's Hospital or the Cancer and Heart Drives, sometimes. So to me it would surprise me if they're not counting tithes as charity.

[urroner]

So if only 50% of Utahns are LDS (do Utah's other faiths also collect tithing?), and if fewer than half (I've heard numbers as low as 30% as full tithepayers), and the average income in the state is just over 50K, then the 10.4% is seriously impressive.

Somebody commented these stats to me the other day and said that it's all because of tithing and it shouldn't count. Wah, wah, wah. I then told him the same thing you said here rpn and he just went real quiet. Using your percentage, than only 15% of that comes from tithing, so, taking off 15% of that 10.4%, it comes out to more than 8.8%. That still comes out in the number one position. BOOM BABY!!! (Okay, I know that statistics don't really work that way, but I was just assuming that everybody in Utah made the same amount of money and each person donated the same. There is also the data about how many did or didn't donate. Working with averages and then averaging averages is bad math.

I then told him that Utah was the number one state for the volunteering rate. http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5108473.pdf

Highest volunteer rate:

Utah had the highest overall volunteer rate between 2006 and 2008, at 43.5 percent. In fact, in every individual year since 2002, the state has had the highest volunteer rate in the US.

Largest number of volunteer hours served per resident:

In addition to having the highest volunteer rate, Utah residents also served the largest number of volunteer hours per resident at

80.1 hours between 2006 and 2008. Additionally, over half (52.7%) of the state’s volunteers served intensively between 2006 and 2008, contributing 100 hours or more in a year, the largest proportion of any state in the U.S. Idaho was second in intensive volunteering over the same time period, with 43.8 percent of their volunteers serving 100 hours or more.

Highest level of neighborhood engagement:

Alaska had not only the highest percentage of residents attending community meetings in 2008 at 20.8 percent, but also had the second highest percentage of residents working with their neighbors to solve community problems at 17.9 percent, after Utah with 18.4 percent.

Highest volunteer rate (Mid-sized city):

Mid-sized city volunteer rates tend to be a little bit higher than the volunteer rates for large cities. The highest volunteer rate of the mid-sized cities is 62.9 percent, found in Provo, UT , and the lowest at 16.8 percent is in El Paso, TX. The median volunteer rate for mid-size cities is 28.6 percent.

Once again, the guy called foul because that included time donated to a church, but I said that at least the people in Utah, whether they were Mormons or not, were volunteering time and doing things for others while in the state he was originally from was on the low end of charity and hours volunteered.

[Judd]

If you throw out church donations then you'd also have to throw out things like donations to the DNC.

[thesometimesaint]

If you throw out church donations then you'd also have to throw out things like donations to the DNC.

Along with the RNC, and any other political party.

BTW The Church is a tax exempt religious charity.

[Avatar4321]

If you throw out church donations then you'd also have to throw out things like donations to the DNC.

Why on earth would donations to political parties be considered charity? If that's the case than 10% is pretty darn pathetic.

[Judd]

Why on earth would donations to political parties be considered charity? If that's the case than 10% is pretty darn pathetic.

Because it's a donation. People want to exclude the church from being charity but then will stack up donations sans church donations against the charitable contributions that go to things that nobody would consider a charity.

[thesometimesaint]

Utah is a charity case.