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Mine are packed up at the moment due to renovation and it has been driving me crazy...but not crazy enough to go drag the boxes up and put them on the shelves myself since we paid my daughter to do it ahead of time so she could purchase some computer stuff she needed.  I may start looking at them longingly whenever now she's around everything besides changing the handles and painting in the kitchen has been done.

MormonMason Mentor

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Maybe I'll start a 'post pictures of your bookshelves' thread in Social Hall sometime soon :)

If I were home with my books, that might be a fun idea for me.  Until then, it would be a depressing reminder of what I do not get to have due to circumstances in my life beyond my control.  I think Calmoriah would have a problem with that thread, too.  It's hard being away from your books when you love them so much.

cursor Mentor

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Will there ever be a 'Mormon Codex for Dummies' book out? ;)

 

There will be a Mormon's Codex: A Summary, which will be about a 125-page reduced version for those who don't want, or won't appreciate, the full blown detail included in the whole work. I'll let you know when it's available.

canard78 Grand Master

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Mine arrived today, pretty impressive given it was the cheapest shipping option to the UK.

 

Great to have a flick through. Maps look good Cursor. It's going to take me a while to work through it all, but I'm looking forward to it.

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cursor Mentor

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Mine arrived today, pretty impressive given it was the cheapest shipping option to the UK.

 

Great to have a flick through. Maps look good Cursor. It's going to take me a while to work through it all, but I'm looking forward to it.

 

Shoot ... my dad just noted that map 3 shows symbol 'C' at the wrong location. It should be at the west coast, where Hagoth could not transverse northward, except by sea. Given corrective feedback from my father (via email), I'll be happy to supply a corrected map here, within this thread.

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David T Veteran

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DesBook is now at least doing some advertising. Got this in my email this morning, under the subject, "NEW: Landmark volume decades in the making!"

 

codex_desbook.jpg

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cursor Mentor

cursor

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I purchased the ebook version the other day from Deseret Book, only to learn that I couldn't download it onto my Nook Color (not supported). DB kindly issued a refund. 

 

I'm looking into rooting my Nook Color, which will allow me to jump from my current Android 1.4.3 to JellyBean (4.1). After I do, I'll reorder the Mormon's Codex ebook. 

cursor Mentor

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Dad says that 30 of the 35 copies have been personally messaged, signed, and sent ... and that the rest "will be in good time."  While I'm certain that I'm on the list, I've not yet received mine. ;)

 

I'm absolutely certain, however, that the copy intended for Dr. Michael D. Coe has been sent.

 

I'm seriously curious as to what response Coe might offer.

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nealr Community Regular

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Dad says that 30 of the 35 copies have been personally messaged, signed, and sent ... and that the rest "will be in good time."  While I'm certain that I'm on the list, I've not yet received mine. ;)

 

I'm absolutely certain, however, that the copy intended for Dr. Michael D. Coe has been sent.

 

I'm seriously curious as to what response Coe might offer.

 

It would be interesting to see, even if it is a negative or critical review. Along the same lines, it would be cool to see the book get reviewed in a mainstream pre-Columbian Mesoamerican studies venue, again even if such a review were negative or critical. Their very taking notice would be a huge step forward and a mark that the ideas being presented are beginning to be taken more seriously. It would make Mormon's Codex yet one more notch in your father's belt of groundbreaking progress on the Book of Mormon in Mesoamerica.

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It is a book that is generally made from tree bark, that the Mayans used to record history, tell stories etc.... You can see some pictures of a few remaining codices here: http://www.ancientmexico.biz/maya.html

When the Spaniards arrived, they burned all of the codices they could find thinking they were of the devil. Oddly enough, those who persecuted Alma and were killing the converts to the Church also "also brought forth their records which contained the holy scriptures, and cast them into the fire also, that they might be burned and destroyed by fire" (Alma 14: 8).

In order for them to be burned, they must be flammable. This excludes records written on plates, carved in stone, etc.. and would fit the description of codices nicely.

Sorenson has written an excellent article on the subject here:

http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/books/?bookid=41&chapid=196

 

Come now, when the Spaniards arrived the friars sought to convert the indigenous peoples. The culture was a blood culture, meaning blood sacrifices to pagan gods, including human sacrifice. When the story of Jesus on the Cross was incorporated into the local culture as a means of human sacrifice, ie, crucifying children, the friars reacted by destroying what they considered to source and support these horrific practices.

 

....ETA, I don't know how to get my post out of your quote!

 

 

 

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Just received my copy of the hardback version. After a casual glance through it, I am amazed at the amount of information he has been able to pack into one volume. He does not spend a lot of time on geography, per se, but simply refers the reader to his previous publications on the topic. He does propose a modification of his previous concept of the extent of the Jaredite occupation.

Great job on the graphics Curtis. For the first time I was able to understand his concept of the Narrow Strip of Wilderness. Although it is not what I would have chosen, it makes sense in conjunction with his choice of the gulf as the east sea. As with any attempt to fit the text to the real world, early assumptions will of necessity dictate the choice of real world geographic features to map to the textual descriptions.

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Tacenda Grand Master

Tacenda

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Cursor, I don't know if you saw this but I posted a podcast in the "leave it, but can't leave it alone" thread, a recent talk given up at Utah State, discussing church historian Leonard Arrington's doubt about the BoM. And his faith was renewed after reading the work done by your father. Did you know about this?

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cursor Mentor

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No, I'd not seen that. I will listen to it. Thanks for the reference. You'll find Leonard J. Arrington's name attached to the Foreward of An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon, by the way.

cursor Mentor

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Cursor, I don't know if you saw this but I posted a podcast in the "leave it, but can't leave it alone" thread, a recent talk given up at Utah State, discussing church historian Leonard Arrington's doubt about the BoM. And his faith was renewed after reading the work done by your father. Did you know about this?

 

Mention of how Arrington was positively influenced by An Ancient American Setting for the Book of Mormon is at 40:30 in that podcast.

David T Veteran

David T

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Just finished An Ancient American Setting this morning. Really enjoyed it, and noted key places where it has had significant influence in Mormon thought. Look forward to plunging into my copy of Mormon's Codex very shortly to learn what's new or improved 30 years later!

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