Bob Crockett Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 So what is the best Ipad app for the scriptures? I use Gospel Library but it seems limited in the ability to make notes.
cinepro Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 He is concerned that technology, by enabling people to study the scriptures by doing word searches -- say, in preparing a talk -- works a disadvantage, because those people, by limiting themselves to such cursory study, miss out on the richness that can come from "hefting" the book, reading it from start to finish, making marginal notations, receiving personal revelation via the scriptures, etc.If people do this, it's probably because they've grown up going to LDS Sunday School classes.
ERayR Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) This thread has prompted me to go to "Mormon Channel" and listen to the interview Sheri Dew conducted with Elder Scott and his daughter. Doing so has blessed my life. What a kind and godly man Elder Scott is, a true servant of the Lord.I think I now understand better what Elder Scott, who has had a lifelong interest in technology and is chairman of the Church's Audio-Visual Committee, was saying with regard to digital scriptures. He is concerned that technology, by enabling people to study the scriptures by doing word searches -- say, in preparing a talk -- works a disadvantage, because those people, by limiting themselves to such cursory study, miss out on the richness that can come from "hefting" the book, reading it from start to finish, making marginal notations, receiving personal revelation via the scriptures, etc.In the spirit of what Elder Scott was saying, I do endeavor to read my scriptures, in the electronic version, from start to finish, not just passages here and there. I make marks and annotations, and I make them as long as I desire, not being limited by the marginal space on a printed page. In addition to the reading I do in preparation of my Sunday School lessons, I am currently reading the Old Testament, New Testament and Book of Mormon page by page (or the digital equivalent thereof). In doing so, I continue to be blessed from time to time with personal revelation as I have been in the past.To listen to the interview, go here.A very real concern. And puts a whole different light on what was said in the OP. Edited November 4, 2011 by ERayR
volgadon Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 Vegemite addiction? Now that is definitely out of the realm of respect and decorum. You, my friend, are a cruel man.BernardCall it psychological projection on my part. My tragic downward spiral all began with buying bread from a man in Brussels.
Bernard Gui Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 To whom are you posing this question?Anyone. Our chapel has wireless connection in the 3 clerk offices, but it is password protected from general use. We have been told that the wireless system will be made available to the members soon. Does anyone here have general access in their buildings?Bernard
TAO Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 Anyone. Our chapel has wireless connection in the 3 clerk offices, but it is password protected from general use. We have been told that the wireless system will be made available to the members soon. Does anyone here have general access in their buildings?BernardAt the institute, yes. But no for general buildings =P. I know somebody who dose know the password, but it is not to be given out and such.
Scott Lloyd Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 So what is the best Ipad app for the scriptures? I use Gospel Library but it seems limited in the ability to make notes.That's the one I use on my iPod Touch. It's not perfect, but it is under constant development and periodic improvement as volunteer programmers in the Church get time and occasion to work on it. To me its chief advantages are price (free) and its standing as the official Church app, which means that it interfaces and syncs with one's personal study notebook on lds.org.There is a program with a lot of bells and whistles. It's called LDS Scriptures. I have resisted buying it because it seems way overpriced as apps go, and its reviews have been tepid. The main complaint seems to be that you have to buy a separate license for each platform you use it on.
Scott Lloyd Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 Anyone. Our chapel has wireless connection in the 3 clerk offices, but it is password protected from general use. We have been told that the wireless system will be made available to the members soon. Does anyone here have general access in their buildings?BernardWe were moved to a different building in a separate stake at the first of this year, when our building was wholly given over to one of the new single adult stakes in Salt Lake Valley.The building we now attend has unrestricted WiFi, but it seems spotty around the building.It's my understanding that the Church is rolling out WiFi to its meetinghouses but leaving access up to the discretion of local leadership..
Storm Rider Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 What are you, sixteen? using terms as you use is very insulting. I love Elder Scott and I don't care how he prefers his scriptures. You sound very immature.Deborah, I didn't interpret it as insulting. If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, it does not apply. Elder Scott may have been misunderstood, but techology need not be feared and certainly should not be preached against. I think Elder Scott would laugh at being called a Luddite and smile with a bit of acknowledgement that the shoe fits a bit. Peace,
mnn727 Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Who has open Internet access in your chapel?BernardWe do.As far as what is preferred, its whatever we are used to. I use my Kindle at Church because I dislike carrying 5 pounds of books around, many people in my ward use their smart phones or IPads.When studying at home I use a hard copy and multiple versions including (gasp) modern language versions of the Bible AND the BoM, they are much easier to understand.When I prepare a lesson or talk I do it onlie at lds.org and copy and paste into Word and then edit it and add my thoughts and words. Edited November 7, 2011 by mnn727
Stargazer Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Since any electronic device or computer program can fail, it is good to keep an archival copy of scriptures-on-paper, just like you keep a year's supply of food storage, hoping you'll never have to use it.Incidentally, if you use the Church's "Gospel Library" app, you can sync all of your markings, annotations, tags and cross references to your "Personal Study Notebook" on LDS.org. This makes the odds of losing your personal notes and markings extremely remote.I've been using Gospel Library. I've used the tools in it that you mention, and like them, they're cool! On the Sunday in question, I had to start the app seven times before it would stay working. Then it locked up on me two or three times while I was looking up references during Sunday School. It appears to have gotten confused. I didn't know you could sync markings and suchlike to the Personal Study Notebook on lds.org (only just discovered it this week), but I will do so and reinstall Gospel Library and see if that fixes it. Thanks for the tip!I've actually been reading scriptures more frequently now that I can do so digitally, btw, so as to whether the digital edition is superior or inferior to the dead-tree edition, in my experience it has gotten me to study the scriptures much more frequently, so it is a definite plus.But when it doesn't work, it doesn't work. That still holds.
Stargazer Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 Call it psychological projection on my part. My tragic downward spiral all began with buying bread from a man in Brussels.Did he come from a land down under? And was he six foot four and full of muscles? If so, I know whereof you speak, and deeply sympathize.
volgadon Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 Did he come from a land down under? And was he six foot four and full of muscles? If so, I know whereof you speak, and deeply sympathize.He just smiled.
altersteve Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I agree with Elder Scott here. I love books, and I think there's nothing like having an actual book in your hands where you can actually turn the page. The smell of books is one of my favorites (weird, I know, haha). I hate the whole "ebook" thing. You will never, EVER, see me reading an ebook, digital scriptures, etc. EVER. I hate it. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I've been using Gospel Library. I've used the tools in it that you mention, and like them, they're cool! On the Sunday in question, I had to start the app seven times before it would stay working. Then it locked up on me two or three times while I was looking up references during Sunday School. It appears to have gotten confused. I didn't know you could sync markings and suchlike to the Personal Study Notebook on lds.org (only just discovered it this week), but I will do so and reinstall Gospel Library and see if that fixes it. Thanks for the tip!I've actually been reading scriptures more frequently now that I can do so digitally, btw, so as to whether the digital edition is superior or inferior to the dead-tree edition, in my experience it has gotten me to study the scriptures much more frequently, so it is a definite plus.But when it doesn't work, it doesn't work. That still holds.I too have had the program freeze up on me occasionally in recent days. Fortunately, it hasn't yet been frequent enough to be debilitating. I taught my gospel doctrine lesson from my iPod on Sunday with no problems.(I've been getting a lot of crashes lately on various programs. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the recent upgrade to iOS 5.)One thing I have noticed: If I leave the program's auto-sync function turned on, the program might halt momentarily while it backs up my bookmarks, annotations and such. I avoid this by keeping the sync function turned off most of the time, only turning it on occasionally to back up my marks.
Scott Lloyd Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 I agree with Elder Scott here. I love books, and I think there's nothing like having an actual book in your hands where you can actually turn the page. The smell of books is one of my favorites (weird, I know, haha). I hate the whole "ebook" thing. You will never, EVER, see me reading an ebook, digital scriptures, etc. EVER. I hate it.That's quite all right. Just don't become a hard-copy-only Nazi as pertaining to other folks, and you and I will get along fine.
altersteve Posted November 8, 2011 Posted November 8, 2011 (edited) That's quite all right. Just don't become a hard-copy-only Nazi as pertaining to other folks, and you and I will get along fine.Okay, I confess that I have the scriptures on my iPhone that I use when I don't have my actual scriptures with me, so I'm not a Nazi. Most of what I said in my last post was overexaggerated, haha.But still, I don't like it. Edited November 8, 2011 by altersteve
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