Another Instance of Compelled Speech (Targeting Religious People) (Sorta)

[ttribe]

5 minutes ago, YJacket said:

I have my own ungodly passions that through Christ are no issue. I do not identify with the fallen parts of nature 

It is for that reason that I do have compassion for the LGBTQ, through Christ it can be overcome, diminished to such a point that it is not an issue.

It's a shame your God is so weak. 

Indeed. Your unhinged rant in this very thread is demonstrative of all of your compassion. It's overwhelming, really.

[YJacket]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

You didn’t make one. It is all emotional appeals and an eschatology about the evil gays abusing kids that you believe as a matter of faith but one day soon you will be vindicated and then can point at the gays burning in hell and cackle with glee. Until then with no proof we laugh at your unfounded beliefs. But soon we will see the truth. Your Dad will come to the playground and beat up all the bullies and we will all see!

LGBTQ is death. It does not produce life but death. 

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Chum said:

I put up with it because sleep is that important.

Oh yes. All the foundation of my health problems is likely the sleep disorder I inherited from my dad and been living with since at least ten years old.   Risks for everything except being healthy appear to go up with sleep deprivation. 

[YJacket]

3 minutes ago, ttribe said:

Indeed. Your unhinged rant in this very thread is demonstrative of all of your compassion. It's overwhelming, really.

If you want to read info what I write as frothing at the teeth you are more than welcome to do so.

[Calm]

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

Maybe we should have Oktoberfest in Midway without lederhosen

I would vote for that, lol. 

[jkwilliams]

3 minutes ago, YJacket said:

LGBTQ is death. It does not produce life but death. 

Ahab, is that you?

[ttribe]

6 minutes ago, jkwilliams said:

Ahab, is that you?

If it is, he's been holding onto this account since 2009.

[jkwilliams]

Just now, ttribe said:

If it is, he's been holding onto this account since 2009.

Well, that’s kind of depressing. It was somehow comforting to think there wasn’t another one around. I really don’t know who the audience or purpose is for the kind of rabidly anti-gay self-righteousness we’re seeing. It certainly doesn’t make belief very attractive. 

[Calm]

1 minute ago, jkwilliams said:

Well, that’s kind of depressing. It was somehow comforting to think there wasn’t another one around. I really don’t know who the audience or purpose is for the kind of rabidly anti-gay self-righteousness we’re seeing. It certainly doesn’t make belief very attractive. 

Ahab described himself as bisexual, iirc. I doubt YJacket does. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by Calm

[jkwilliams]

Just now, Calm said:

Ahab described himself as bisexual, iirc. I doubt YJacket does. 

I forgot about that. Strange guy. 

[The Nehor]

42 minutes ago, YJacket said:

You have worn out the use words like bigot, they only have effect in your own circles.

Get out some and you'll see it's not as powerful as you think. 

Yes, your victory is assured. We know. When Babylon falls you may be in for a bit of a surprise.

[The Nehor]

36 minutes ago, YJacket said:

LGBTQ is death. It does not produce life but death. 

By their fruits ye shall know them.

35 minutes ago, YJacket said:

If you want to read info what I write as frothing at the teeth you are more than welcome to do so.

I give your Abinadi Wannabe performance a D+.

[smac97]

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

Let me see if I have this straight:

Pun intended? 

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

A pride event is supposed to be a celebration of a person's sexuality, an overt statement that we are not ashamed of our sexuality.

I think these some of these events have, for some participants, become considerably more than that.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

Apparently, that's OK as long as it doesn't involve any expression of sexuality. Really?

Hedonistic and deprave "expressions of sexuality" in public, in full view of small children, is . . . creepy.  Gross.  Perverted.  Regardless of who does it.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

On August 6, my friends in the Bolivia Utah society are celebrating their Bolivian heritage as part of Bolivia's independence day. I guess we should make sure that the program isn't too Bolivian--right?--because they live in the USA, and their loyalty might come into question. Maybe we should have Oktoberfest in Midway without lederhosen.

Public expressions of one's heritage typically do not involve hypersexualized imagery, clothes, behaviors, etc.  

Public expressions of one's heritage typically do not involve the sexualization and grooming of children.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

Or Mardi Gras without beads.

Mardi Gras has objectionable elements to it, and "{c}ontrary to popular belief, public nudity is illegal in New Orleans. (Many a bared breast does not a lawful act make.)"  That is, "{c}ontrary to popular belief outside of New Orleans, Carnival is overwhelmingly a family-friendly holiday. Many New Orleanians take their kids to parades, and a good rule to apply here is, if you wouldn’t do something in front of kids in your hometown, you shouldn’t do it here."  So it seems the folks in NOLA allow for adult stuff, but they segregate kids and families from it.  

Nobody is suggesting Mardi Gras beads have a sexualizing/grooming effect on children.  In contrast, there are plenty of photographs and videos showing hypersexualized imagery, clothes, behaviors, etc. at some pride parades, going on in full view of small children.  There are plenty of photographs and videos of drag shows specifically catering to small children.  This stuff is giving rise to reasonably concerns about the sexualization and grooming of children and these events.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

The whole point is to not be ashamed of our sexuality, so obviously there's going to be some representation of sexuality. I get it that you don't like the "depravities" shown (I'm not even going to ask), but for people who have lived in the shadows and hidden who they are, that expression is important. 

Public displays of sexual behavior are, in the main, not appropriate.  Doing such things in the presence of small children is never appropriate.  Deliberately focusing on exposing children to these things is never appropriate.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

That said, obviously it's not a good idea to have children at events that are inappropriate for them. No argument here.

Good to know.

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

But there's a long leap in saying these events are designed to sexualize and groom children.

I don't think that's even in reasonable dispute.  

1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

I've known enough people who have planned and held pride events (even ones with depravities, as it were), and no one ever said anything, in public or private, about grooming kids.

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1 hour ago, jkwilliams said:

Twisting the purpose of such events to engender fear of LGBTQ people is pretty low. 

Not nearly as twisted as the bloodlust involved in skinning puppies for fun and profit.  That is far lower.  (This is the part where we exchange false accusations, right?)

Thanks,

-Smac

Edited July 29, 2022 by smac97

[Chum]

1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

Often, but often kink is generalized into very specific kinds of kink. Almost everyone is kinky to a degree but most kinks are innocuous. Then there are the depraved weirdos like myself. I have theories as to why but few of them have to do with damage. If the triggering incidents in childhood I suspect are responsible for them they were innocuous. It was, for lack of a better word, random.

After reading yours and JK's feedback, I've checked the possible-crackpot box on my theory. It wouldn't be the first. Shelving it for now.

[jkwilliams]

4 minutes ago, smac97 said:

Pun intended? 

I think these some of these events have, for some participants, become considerably more than that.

Hedonistic and deprave "expressions of sexuality" in public, in full view of small children, is . . . creepy.  Gross.  Perverted.  Regardless of who does it.

Public expressions of one's heritage typically do not involve hypersexualized imagery, clothes, behaviors, etc.  

Public expressions of one's heritage typically do not involve the sexualization and grooming of children.

Mardi Gras has objectionable elements to it, and "{c}ontrary to popular belief, public nudity is illegal in New Orleans. (Many a bared breast does not a lawful act make.)"  That is, "{c}ontrary to popular belief outside of New Orleans, Carnival is overwhelmingly a family-friendly holiday. Many New Orleanians take their kids to parades, and a good rule to apply here is, if you wouldn’t do something in front of kids in your hometown, you shouldn’t do it here."  So it seems the folks in NOLA allow for adult stuff, but they segregate kids and families from it.  

Nobody is suggesting Mardi Gras beads have a sexualizing/grooming effect on children.  In contrast, there are plenty of photographs and videos showing hypersexualized imagery, clothes, behaviors, etc. at some pride parades, going on in full view of small children.  There are plenty of photographs and videos of drag shows specifically catering to small children.  This stuff is giving rise to reasonably concerns about the sexualization and grooming of children and these events.

Public displays of sexual behavior are, in the main, not appropriate.  Doing such things in the presence of small children is never appropriate.  Deliberately focusing on exposing children to these things is never appropriate.

Good to know.

I don't think that's even in reasonable dispute.  

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Not nearly as twisted as the bloodlust involved in skinning puppies for fun and profit.  That is far lower.  (This is the part where we exchange false accusations, right?)

Thanks,

-Smac

Again, I agree that people shouldn’t take kids to sexually explicit events, and event planners should prevent their attendance. And if you find an event “gross,” don’t attend. But I don’t accept the insinuation that wearing a rainbow insignia on a uniform means one condones grooming and sexualizing children. I’m glad corporations aren’t afraid to support LGBTQ people, but obviously employees have every right to opt out.