JLHPROF Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 22 minutes ago, 2BizE said: No, there really isn’t free agency in Mormonism. Others will make great arguments that there is, but there is not. It is only an illusion of Agency. There's no such thing as free agency anywhere.
Rain Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 On 2/16/2021 at 11:57 AM, AtlanticMike said: I have a question,on Saturday at 9:44 PM on this page, a few post up, someone responded to me saying that "mormons are Christians". Personally I just dont understand it. Today, we are encouraged to not say the word "mormon" because its viewed as a nickname. But Christianity, more specifically the word "Christian" is also a nickname given back in the time of Christ to his followers by people who hated jesus. Am I missing something? I've been thinking about this alot. You are missing the part in the Book of Mormon that said the followers of Christ were "christian". On 2/16/2021 at 6:57 PM, AtlanticMike said: Just ran across this. Kinda what you're saying. If this is a reason to not call ourselves Christian then we shouldn't call ourselves Mormon either. Personally I am ok with being called both.
Calm Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, 2BizE said: No, there really isn’t free agency in Mormonism. Others will make great arguments that there is, but there is not. It is only an illusion of Agency. Please explain your reasoning 1
AtlanticMike Posted February 18, 2021 Author Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Rain said: If this is a reason to not call ourselves Christian then we shouldn't call ourselves Mormon either. I could deal with that actually. I would give up the word mormon for saint.
Ahab Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 14 hours ago, JLHPROF said: There's no such thing as free agency anywhere. It's as easy or complicated as understanding why freedom isn't free... and yet is still called freedom. 1
JLHPROF Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Ahab said: It's as easy or complicated as understanding why freedom isn't free... and yet is still called freedom. Agreed. But I refer less to the cost and more to the consequences.
Ahab Posted February 18, 2021 Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, JLHPROF said: Agreed. But I refer less to the cost and more to the consequences. When thinking of freedom, you mean? Or when you think of free agency? What would you say is the cost of what some people refer to as our free agency? I suppose the consequences follow whatever we choose to do. I would say the cost of our freedom is whatever we have to do to ensure that we have it, or to ensure that nobody takes it from us. As if anyone could. What would you say you need to do to ensure you are always free to do whatever you can do?
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