Ed Smart, father of Elizabeth Smart, Announces he is gay

[Hamba Tuhan]

4 hours ago, california boy said:

Maybe they should institute the same policy for couples that divorce as they have against gays.  If you divorce, you have to remain celibate the rest of your life and can never hold hands, flirt, kiss, hug, date or have sex with someone of the opposite sex.

I'm OK with this. Jesus did make it very clear that divorce for any reason other than πορνεία* is a lesser law, and I tend to be a fan of higher laws. In the same sermon, he also endorsed celibacy: 'and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake'.

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* According to Strong's, the Greek word here covers all serious sexual sin: 'adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.; sexual intercourse with close relatives; sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman'.

[MustardSeed]

16 hours ago, Calm said:

For some reason this strikes me as wrong, like saying “cancer is only a symptom” as one could say every disorder is just a symptom of the body making a mistake.  I need to think about this. 

I get your point.  But there is always something else deeper when an affair happens. 

I guess this has potential of derail.  Circling back, we just waste our time judging each other ❤️

Edited August 20, 2019 by MustardSeed

[The Nehor]

There are several LDS couples I know of that I think should divorce. One of the spouses always seem to tolerate the intolerable.  

The reasons are severe: adultery, alcoholism, drug abuse, voluntary uselessness

Not sure if there is a way to stem divorce unless individual behavior improves.

[PacMan]

Could someone please address the obvious?  Ed Smart enters into a long-term committed relationship with a woman that he loves, that loved him, that was completely loyal to him, and with her has children.  He then decides that he wants to pursue a gay relationship to be 'authentic,' 'true to himself,' or [enter any other lame justification here].

How is that any different than a man leaving his wonderful brunet wife for some hot-blond down the street?  What if he was always truly attracted to blonds, ever since he was a child?  But, for one reason or another, he decided to repress that feeling in favor of beginning a committed and loving relationship with someone that doesn't fit that mold.  Should we applaud him for being 'authentic?'

At the end of the day, Ed Smart made a decision.  And it has nothing to do with being gay.  He decided to abandon his integrity and wife for something else.  In any event, I've always think he carried a major creep factor.

Ironic how being gay has become the great justification for all sorts of immoral conduct.

Edited August 21, 2019 by PacMan

[ALarson]

1 hour ago, PacMan said:

Could someone please address the obvious?  Ed Smart enters into a long-term committed relationship with a woman that he loves, that loved him, that was completely loyal to him, and with her has children.  He then decides that he wants to pursue a gay relationship to be 'authentic,' 'true to himself,' or [enter any other lame justification here].

How is that any different than a man leaving his wonderful brunet wife for some hot-blond down the street? 

Lois Smart is the one who filed for divorce (on July 5).  We don't have all the details here and I'd recommend refraining from passing judgement on either one of them.

Edited August 22, 2019 by ALarson

[PacMan]

6 minutes ago, ALarson said:

Lous Smart is the one who filed for divorce (on July 5).  We don't have all the details here and I'd recommend refraining from passing judgement on either one of them.

I haven't passed any judgment on Louis Smart (if I were, it would be that she is 100% a victim that doesn't deserve any of the pain Ed is causing).  But Ed's statement speaks for himself.  This was Ed's decision.  Do I think the real details will reveal that Ed is a disgusting philandering homosexual?  Possibly.  But my post has nothing to do with assumptions or jumping to conclusions.  I am basing it solely off of what he wrote in his FB post.  I'm giving Ed the benefit of the doubt that his culpability/disgustability is limited to what he wrote.

Edited August 21, 2019 by PacMan

[JulieM]

17 minutes ago, PacMan said:

I haven't passed any judgment on Louis Smart (if I were, it would be that she is 100% a victim that doesn't deserve any of the pain Ed is causing).  But Ed's statement speaks for himself.  This was Ed's decision.  Do I think the real details will reveal that Ed is a disgusting philandering homosexual?  Possibly.  But my post has nothing to do with assumptions or jumping to conclusions.  I am basing it solely off of what he wrote in his FB post.  I'm giving Ed the benefit of the doubt that his culpability/disgustability is limited to what he wrote.

Ugh.

This (and your other one) is such an ugly, embarrassing post.

[Danzo]

1 hour ago, ALarson said:

Lous Smart is the one who filed for divorce (on July 5).  We don't have all the details here and I'd recommend refraining from passing judgement on either one of them.

The whole purpose of an internet  thread like this is to pass judgement on Ed, Louis and each other.  Otherwise, why start a thread on the topic? We are posting here to either pass judgment on one of the Smart's or to pass judgement on each other for passing judgement on the Smarts.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Danzo

[JulieM]

9 minutes ago, Danzo said:

The whole purpose of an internet  thread like this is to pass judgement on Ed, Louis and each other.  Otherwise, why start a thread on the topic? We are posting here to either pass judgment on one of the Smart's or to pass judgement on each other for passing judgement on the Smarts.

I hope you’re joking!

Of course we can have an opinion, but the personal attacks are wrong to do, imo.

Edited August 22, 2019 by JulieM

[Skylla]

There's nowhere for this thread to go other than negative.

Skylla