JLHPROF Posted February 27, 2017 Posted February 27, 2017 6 minutes ago, theplains said: Rev 14:6-8 - "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication." None of these angels is Moroni. Other than your opinion, what makes you say that? Do you have ANY evidence to your claim? 2
mfbukowski Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 On 2/24/2017 at 1:14 PM, clarkgoble said: I confess the trump has always bugged me for stupid reasons. First off our big symbol has a trump (not trumpet which has valves) but we don't let brass instruments play in church. Always a pet peeve when I saw violinists play solos and I was stuck with my trombone. It always bugged me especially with an organ making music by blowing air through brass pipes. I bet most people who played brass felt the same way. Second the Rev 14 bit is what I always heart except the trump isn't there. The only music described is harpists in verse 2 and singers in verse 3. So they don't even get the instrument right if they're following Rev 14. Personally I think a sickle would have made far more sense although one can understand why they wouldn't want that. Everyone knows a trombone is a sinful instrument, but nothing is more sinful than a saxophone. Man, you hear a saxophone in a movie, you know you better shut your eyes. I But with a trombone, you can do a glissando and you know what that means. On the other hand though, trombones symbolize the Voice of Parents in Peanuts cartoons, so maybe they are the voice of the gods. 1
theplains Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 On 27/02/2017 at 6:50 PM, JLHPROF said: Other than your opinion, what makes you say that? Do you have ANY evidence to your claim? The evidence is provided in the quote in Revelation I gave. Thanks, Jim
JLHPROF Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 35 minutes ago, theplains said: The evidence is provided in the quote in Revelation I gave. Thanks, Jim The angel in Revelation isn't Moroni because Revelation doesn't identify his name? That's not evidence.
theplains Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 On 01/03/2017 at 7:39 PM, JLHPROF said: The angel in Revelation isn't Moroni because Revelation doesn't identify his name? That's not evidence. Read the context of that passage in Revelation. It doesn't fit Moroni. Jim
Ahab Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, theplains said: Read the context of that passage in Revelation. It doesn't fit Moroni. Jim ...flying in the midst of heaven (the sky) to proclaim the gospel... Yep, sounds like Moroni to me.
Ouagadougou Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 On 24.02.2017 at 10:46 AM, Duncan said: Obviously on nearly every Temple the Angel Moroni is playing a Trump and the scripture that I see used is Revelation 14:6. In that verse though it doesn't have anything to do with anybody playing any musical instrument and how do we know it's talking about Moroni? Does anybody know how Moroni came to be playing an instrument on top of Temples? Apparently Moroni dabbles with the trumpet:
JAHS Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 Some Angel Moroni statue trivia: The Jordan River temple has the largest Angel Moroni statue at 20 ft tall The Salt Lake temple was the first to have a standing angel Moroni. Six temples had statues added to them after being dedicated There are six different versions of the statue The Los Angeles California Temple has distinct Native American features with the cloak displaying Mayan designs, a headband and sandals on his feet. The Monticello Utah temple is the only one with a white Angel Moroni. In June 2009, lightning struck the Oquirrh Mountain Utah Angel Moroni, damaging Moroni's trumpet, arm and face. During the Oct. 15, 2013, earthquake in the Philippines, the Angel Moroni statue turned 90 degrees During an earthquake in 2010 in Chile, the trumpet of the Angel Moroni fell out, In the early 1930's a Washington D.C. chapel building had an Angel Moroni on it's spire but was removed in 1976 One Angel Moroni statue that is not placed on top of a building is on the Hill Cumorah Monument.
Ahab Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, JAHS said: Some Angel Moroni statue trivia: ... One Angel Moroni statue that is not placed on top of a building is on the Hill Cumorah Monument. There is also a statue of the angel Moroni on a ship named Nauvoo on the Sci-Fi channel show called The Expanse.
JAHS Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ahab said: There is also a statue of the angel Moroni on a ship named Nauvoo on the Sci-Fi channel show called The Expanse. The Starship Troopers movie (1997) also shows an angel Moroni on top of a temple on an alien planet. 4
Ahab Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, JAHS said: The Starship Troopers movie (1997) also shows an angel Moroni on top of a temple on an alien planet. Neato. I didn't know that. I suppose he is heralding the same message wherever he is.
Calm Posted March 7, 2017 Posted March 7, 2017 I think the Monticello one is gold now. Iirc, they found the white didn't stand out enough.
theplains Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 On 06/03/2017 at 8:25 PM, Ahab said: ...flying in the midst of heaven (the sky) to proclaim the gospel... Yep, sounds like Moroni to me. What LDS history records a flying Moroni? Jim
JAHS Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, theplains said: What LDS history records a flying Moroni? Jim Here he is. Ignore the attached wire. 1
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