The Nehor Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 You really area dreamer.You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one. 2
Kenngo1969 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I have been doing it for years when I teach. While part of me applauds the move if it is happening I am also concerned. I am not sure if all our teachers can do it.It's certainly going to require more than skimming that week's lesson during Sacrament Meeting for presentation/discussion during Sunday School in the second hour, that's for sure!
Kenngo1969 Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) You really area dreamer. You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwUGSYDKUxU P.S.: I don't agree with all of Lennon's lyrics, but I do like that song. I think the ideals he sings about are worthwhile pursuits, even if I disagree with some of his conclusions about the things that bring us closer to those ideals, and those that take us away. Edited January 5, 2015 by Kenngo1969
The Nehor Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 It's certainly going to require more than skimming that week's lesson during Sacrament Meeting for presentation/discussion during Sunday School in the second hour, that's for sure! In my experience you can skim it during sacrament meeting and then run with it if you teach this way. It requires less time for the specific lesson but much more time overall. When you have spent a lot of time in the scriptures and pondering them you already have the lessons you learned. Mix in lessons others have learned and you have a lesson. Obviously this does not work if you have no idea who Captain Moroni is when you crack open the lesson manual in sacrament meeting or only know a few tidbits about him. I get the chapters about a week before, skim or read them, and then think about them when I am driving for a week. By Sunday I have a good idea of what to say and God often tells me which things I want to say I should not say. While we are not all going to be historians or experts on Nephite or New Testament culture we are expected to feast on the Word of God and become knowledgeable about it.
Judd Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) You mean we're not walking out with a PhD in Divinity after two years of passive church attendance? I'll make sure I pass the word around to ensure this misperception dies off before the looming 2017 church essay on the topic. Edited January 5, 2015 by Judd
cinepro Posted January 5, 2015 Author Posted January 5, 2015 If you had a magic wand and could make any changes you wanted what would studying the scriptures in Gospel Doctrine class look like? We're just starting our study of the New Testament. I would start off the year discussing where the New Testament came from, what we know (and don't know) about who wrote it, what kind of manuscripts we have, etc. This wouldn't be the focus of the lesson, but it would be covered. We would also discuss the timeframe of the stories, some of the historical context for what is happening. There is something slightly like this in the "Additional Teaching Ideas" for the first lesson, but again, I don't see how you can say you're studying the New Testament without actually studying the New Testament.
Duncan Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 FWIW, I also have the same problem with the "Teachings of the Presidents of the Church" course for Priesthood/ RS. We just "studied" the teachings of Joseph Fielding Smith for a year (24 lessons). Can anyone tell me any distinctive teachings they learned last year? I remember a few stories from his life (I was especially touched by the story of him losing his son during WWII), but I can't think of a single unique "teaching". I can! call me a nerd (never ending radical dude) but I printed off every single talk in conference that Joseph Fielding Smith ever gave and I read through them. I also did that for Elders James E. Talmage, McConkie, Maxwell and B.H. Roberts 3
Tacenda Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 I can! call me a nerd (never ending radical dude) but I printed off every single talk in conference that Joseph Fielding Smith ever gave and I read through them. I also did that for Elders James E. Talmage, McConkie, Maxwell and B.H. RobertsNot a nerd, just well read. 1
Duncan Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Not a nerd, just well read. you speak kindly words! hahahahaha!
The Nehor Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 Not a nerd, just well read.Potato, potatoh. 2
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted January 5, 2015 Posted January 5, 2015 We're just starting our study of the New Testament. Come now, cine, you are not really "studying" the NT.
Coreyb Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I can! call me a nerd (never ending radical dude) but I printed off every single talk in conference that Joseph Fielding Smith ever gave and I read through them. I also did that for Elders James E. Talmage, McConkie, Maxwell and B.H. RobertsThat's my kind of nerd. 1
danielwoods Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Such an approach has its usefulness from certain perspectives. By no means am I arguing that such an approach isn't useful. Conversely, one of the things Latter-day Saints are encouraged to do (though by no means is it the only sanctioned approach) is to "liken all scripture unto us, that it might be for our profit and learning" (1 Nephi 19:23). Can you explain what this approach means exactly, I'm not sure I understand what "liken all scripture unto us..." means.
Kenngo1969 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 I can! call me a nerd (never ending radical dude) but I printed off every single talk in conference that Joseph Fielding Smith ever gave and I read through them. I also did that for Elders James E. Talmage, McConkie, Maxwell and B.H. RobertsHoly Preparation, Batman!
Kenngo1969 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 Can you explain what this approach means exactly, I'm not sure I understand what "liken all scripture unto us..." means. How does it apply to us? What benefit can we derive from it today?
Kenngo1969 Posted January 6, 2015 Posted January 6, 2015 In my experience you can skim it during sacrament meeting and then run with it if you teach this way. It requires less time for the specific lesson but much more time overall. When you have spent a lot of time in the scriptures and pondering them you already have the lessons you learned. Mix in lessons others have learned and you have a lesson. Obviously this does not work if you have no idea who Captain Moroni is when you crack open the lesson manual in sacrament meeting or only know a few tidbits about him. I get the chapters about a week before, skim or read them, and then think about them when I am driving for a week. By Sunday I have a good idea of what to say and God often tells me which things I want to say I should not say. While we are not all going to be historians or experts on Nephite or New Testament culture we are expected to feast on the Word of God and become knowledgeable about it.Can't have any serious argument against that approach.
Recommended Posts