Stone holm Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Sometime decades ago I remember reading where some Mormon scholars sent out a poll, to determine what theory as to the location of the ten tribes was held to be the most correct by the membership. The result had been the belief that they had been absorbed by Europe and Russia. This then prompted a response from the First Presidency stating this was incorrect and the tribes were gathered in one place and knew who they were. Unfortunately, I can't find that First Presidency declaration and wonder if anyone has a cite. Also am curious as to current speculation on the subject, my own being somewhat Battlestar Galactic related.
Duncan Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Aren't they scattered all over the earth as per 3 Nephi 5:24-26? In a sense aren't we all scattered until we come, meaning coming back from spiritual captivity, unto Christ? Edited April 8, 2013 by Duncan
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 If they are in a group somewhere then I propose the center of the earth. I did watch a history channel type program wherein a researcher had found remnants of most of the ten tribes scattered around . Some were in India,some Afganistan,some Cyprus,etc.
CASteinman Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Sometime decades ago I remember reading where some Mormon scholars sent out a poll, to determine what theory as to the location of the ten tribes was held to be the most correct by the membership. The result had been the belief that they had been absorbed by Europe and Russia. This then prompted a response from the First Presidency stating this was incorrect and the tribes were gathered in one place and knew who they were. Unfortunately, I can't find that First Presidency declaration and wonder if anyone has a cite. Also am curious as to current speculation on the subject, my own being somewhat Battlestar Galactic related.This is interesting and completely unknown to me!
Duncan Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 If they are in a group somewhere then I propose the center of the earth. I did watch a history channel type program wherein a researcher had found remnants of most of the ten tribes scattered around . Some were in India,some Afganistan,some Cyprus,etc.the center of the universe=Toronto dot dot dot
BCSpace Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 They certainly aren't in the center of the earth or under the arctic etc.
Stone holm Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 Aren't they scattered all over the earth as per 3 Nephi 5:24-26? In a sense aren't we all scattered until we come, meaning coming back from spiritual captivity, unto Christ?As I recall that is what the poll revealed that most Mormons thought and when the poll was published the First presidency said no that is wrong, but I can't find a citation to the First Presidency response. The response makes sense because a highway is supposed to be thrown up in the midst of the deep and they are to come marching in bearing their records.
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 They certainly aren't in the center of the earth or under the arctic etc. Well Edgar Rice Burroughs would disagree ( Tarzan at the earth's core 1929 )
Stone holm Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 Well Edgar Rice Burroughs would disagree ( Tarzan at the earth's core 1929 )Yeah, I still tend to favor the Battlestar approach.
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 There is a faith promoting prophecy for my region that has the 10 tribes using the Cardston temple on their way down from the north. ( the ice will flow down at their presence ) 1
volgadon Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 There is a faith promoting prophecy for my region that has the 10 tribes using the Cardston temple on their way down from the north. ( the ice will flow down at their presence )Wow, you Canadians really ought to stop prooftexting curling. 2
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah, I still tend to favor the Battlestar approach. Well, the Battlestar Galactica original series was written by an LDS (ish ) . Maybe he knew something we don't.
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Wow, you Canadians really ought to stop prooftexting curling. There is a reason curlers always yell " hurry hard " . It's a plea to the 10 tribes to get a move on.
Duncan Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 As I recall that is what the poll revealed that most Mormons thought and when the poll was published the First presidency said no that is wrong, but I can't find a citation to the First Presidency response. The response makes sense because a highway is supposed to be thrown up in the midst of the deep and they are to come marching in bearing their records.If you can find that reference I will personally make a bunch of mutant puppets and we'll do the harlem shake on the head of a pin
Stone holm Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 If you can find that reference I will personally make a bunch of mutant puppets and we'll do the harlem shake on the head of a pinWell, I know the work that provoked it, "The House of Israel" by E.L. Whitehead 1947. Which is a delightful mixture of Scripture, history, faux history, rumor, and folklore of about the same level of credibility as some of Skousens writing but wonderfully entertaining to read. But there used to be a loose leaf addendum to it that had the questionnaire its results and then the response of the First Pres. Saying no folks you got it wrong. But I have lost that part.
blackstrap Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 But I have lost that part. I'm sure it will return with the 10 tribes. !
Duncan Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Well, I know the work that provoked it, "The House of Israel" by E.L. Whitehead 1947. Which is a delightful mixture of Scripture, history, faux history, rumor, and folklore of about the same level of credibility as some of Skousens writing but wonderfully entertaining to read. But there used to be a loose leaf addendum to it that had the questionnaire its results and then the response of the First Pres. Saying no folks you got it wrong. But I have lost that part.well, I am betting 3 Nephi and other places are probably a bit more correct then that! haha! 1
volgadon Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 There is a reason curlers always yell " hurry hard " . It's a plea to the 10 tribes to get a move on.A Montrealer Seder, from the Big Book of Jewish Humor.
Calm Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Well, I know the work that provoked it, "The House of Israel" by E.L. Whitehead 1947. Which is a delightful mixture of Scripture, history, faux history, rumor, and folklore of about the same level of credibility as some of Skousens writing but wonderfully entertaining to read. But there used to be a loose leaf addendum to it that had the questionnaire its results and then the response of the First Pres. Saying no folks you got it wrong. But I have lost that part.Referenced but the specifics appear to be in the pages not shown...urgh!: http://tinyurl.com/bv87h58 Edited April 8, 2013 by calmoriah
Duncan Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Aren't we are gathering Israel by doing missionary work? Elder C. Scott Grow gave a talk about it in conference some years agohttps://www.lds.org/general-conference/2005/10/the-book-of-mormon-the-instrument-to-gather-scattered-israel?lang=eng
mfbukowski Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 I think they all live right here in Los Angeles.
Stone holm Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 I think they all live right here in Los Angeles.Well that's not necessarily inconsistent with my speculation about outer space. 1
bcuzbcuz Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 There is a reason curlers always yell " hurry hard " . It's a plea to the 10 tribes to get a move on.I'm sorry. That should be "Hur-r-r-r-r-ry! Har-ar-ar-ar-ar-ard! Preferably with a rolled R-r-r-r.
Questing Beast Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Sometime decades ago I remember reading where some Mormon scholars sent out a poll, to determine what theory as to the location of the ten tribes was held to be the most correct by the membership. The result had been the belief that they had been absorbed by Europe and Russia. This then prompted a response from the First Presidency stating this was incorrect and the tribes were gathered in one place and knew who they were. Unfortunately, I can't find that First Presidency declaration and wonder if anyone has a cite. Also am curious as to current speculation on the subject, my own being somewhat Battlestar Galactic related.Yes, Off World is the most believable theory. Less likely would be "hidden", as in a "fold" of another dimension, such that they actually occupy a section of Earth's surface "in the north countries", yet are not discernible except when they choose to be discerned....
Questing Beast Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) This is interesting and completely unknown to me!Yes, the single-most fun feature of Mormonism is its wealth of "weird tales" quality. Our cosmology is more fascinating, and our prophecies as well. I will always enjoy how Mormonism is entwined with bigger than life beliefs, what to "normal" people are no better than "bad science fiction". But then, "normal" people are largely bored and boring, having no vision or occupation beyond the physical and visceral. On the other hand, most Mormons do not know of or appreciate how strange and fun the beliefs of their religion really are.... Edited April 8, 2013 by Questing Beast
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