Damien the Leper Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 I hope you are able to find another church, that I do. Sorry if it's been tough. =/-TAOI seem to most strike out in this area. I don't know that I want to be an active participant of a church anymore. The appeal just isn't there and I don't want to put myself out there again just to possibly get burned again.I guess Sunday's will be at-home-scripture-study and rugby re-runs with cilantro-jalapeno hummus and chicken pasta salad with feta cheese and lemon vinaigrette dressing.
Darren10 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Gay pastors and gay marriage are one thing. Denying the divinity of Christ undermines the explicit intent of why the Episcopal church was established.Sure enough!!!
Darren10 Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 If I were to establish a church, it would have Jesus Christ in the name. Myself and another would be pastors of theology and teaching. Another person would be pastor of "chillax" ministry and the overall leader of the church would be a woman to keep us men in check.See, it's working out already. 1
TAO Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I seem to most strike out in this area. I don't know that I want to be an active participant of a church anymore. The appeal just isn't there and I don't want to put myself out there again just to possibly get burned again.I guess Sunday's will be at-home-scripture-study and rugby re-runs with cilantro-jalapeno hummus and chicken pasta salad with feta cheese and lemon vinaigrette dressing.Do what works best =).
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 It is thier loss noy yours . However,I would fight it, get reinstated then quit , Just to show the meaninglessness of it . Some church leader in all churches are idiots .Sorry but the suggestion and the comment are not recommended. Please Val do not seek to get even.
Damien the Leper Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 Sorry but the suggestion and the comment are not recommended. Please Val do not seek to get even.No worries, Pa Pa. Retaliation like that isn't my thing.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 I don't have the energy to put into such a fight. Disciplinary actions such as this, or worse, say more about the institution than the individual. Forgiveness, compassion and mercy come from God and not a church that disciplines.Good for you...I can think of nothing more. God tells us to forgive, see my blog and poem on forgiveness. NOT tottin my own horn either.
Damien the Leper Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 I don't mind you tooting your horn, Pa Pa. Most often, I like it when you do.
Garden Girl Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Hello Valentinus...I'm sorry because you seemed enthused to participate in the Episcopalian church... and I do hope you will be able to find a church community so you can feel the "belonging" and shared love of a congregation. One of the non-denominational congregations that are Christ centered that welcome all people... I know they are out there... And I do know Heavenly Father loves you also... so please try not to be "done." Of course I hope you'll continue to post here... Even with our differences, I have respect for you...GG
salvar774 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Sorry but the suggestion and the comment are not recommended. Please Val do not seek to get even.How is fighting to undo a wrong getting even ? If any leader in my church were to do wrong , I would defend the good name of my church and the priciples it that have been established by God . One thing is be vintictave another is to make a stand on your beliefs . " The only thing necessary for the triump of evil is for good men to do nothing " Edmund Burke
Damien the Leper Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 Hello Valentinus...I'm sorry because you seemed enthused to participate in the Episcopalian church... and I do hope you will be able to find a church community so you can feel the "belonging" and shared love of a congregation. One of the non-denominational congregations that are Christ centered that welcome all people... I know they are out there... And I do know Heavenly Father loves you also... so please try not to be "done." Of course I hope you'll continue to post here... Even with our differences, I have respect for you...GGThanks, GG. I don't plan to leave this board and my Mormons here. Call me a glutton for punishment but this board keeps me sane and on my toes.Also, I wouldn't leave you GG. After all, you're a BYU fan and I have mad trash to spit. 1
Garden Girl Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Thanks, GG. I don't plan to leave this board and my Mormons here. Call me a glutton for punishment but this board keeps me sane and on my toes.Also, I wouldn't leave you GG. After all, you're a BYU fan and I have mad trash to spit.Yeah, I know, I know... GG Edited February 22, 2013 by Garden Girl 1
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 How is fighting to undo a wrong getting even ? Especially when it comes to those of of other faiths and misunderstandings..."Vengeance is mine saith The Lord". I am not worthy to sit in such judgement. Besides God commands us to forgive those who wrong us...this will "heap hot coals on their heads". Also when does the fighting stop?
salvar774 Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Wow who said any thing about vengeance . We all judge every day . It is natural ."When does the fighting stop ." It depend what you are fighting for . For liberty , justice and freedom , I think never .Well my intention was not to get any one to retaliate or to fight . I was just trying to be supportave of some one that felt treated unjustly . It seems to me my attempt to be a part of the conversation was not accepted and not welcomedApologiies for posting here . My bad . Good luck in you endeavors Edited February 22, 2013 by salvar774
Stargazer Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Wow. I was wondering why the change of avatar. Makes perfect sense, now.This is incredibly disappointing to me -- yes, yes, I know, not the same, and all that, but when you announced some time back that you had joined the Episcopalians and found some peace with them, I was actually overjoyed! I knew you had had personal and familial problems that even me, in all my toughness () would have found hard to deal with, and I was really happy for you.But THIS turn of events... O. M. G.I am simply flabbergasted.Best wishes for your inner peace returning -- which, I believe, if you will rely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, will occur.!!!
Nathair/|\ Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Have you considered Discordianism? It seems like it would fit you quite well enough. Anyone willing to use a Baphomet avatar on a Mormon board must have a streak of Eris in him.
Damien the Leper Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 Thanks, Stargazer. It only reflects how I feel right now. I'm sad but I will get over it.
Sky Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 I was informed yesterday that the Episcopal church is revoking my baptism. They wouldn't give me a solid explanation as to why but it appears that my theology and politics, both of which I keep to myself at church, are partially to blame. I was invited to continue to attend but abstain from taking Communion. I think I will stop going to church all together. This is a tiresome game.End of rant.If being a part of the Episcopal Church is something that you want, then I'm sure it's still a possibility for you. Maybe you should consider finding out more details of why your baptism was revoked. If nothing else, don't you think you deserve to know why? There has to be a reason. Maybe they did this because you like Mormons just a little too much!? Anyway, I'm glad that you haven't given up on God. He is there, and He loves us regardless of the choices that we make. I hope that you eventually find a place of worship that suits you well. 1
volgadon Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Have you considered Discordianism? It seems like it would fit you quite well enough. Anyone willing to use a Baphomet avatar on a Mormon board must have a streak of Eris in him.Were I ever to open a satanist boutique it would be titled "Bed, Baphomet, and Beyond."This officially is the worst pun of the year, so there. 4
Calm Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Were I ever to open a satanist boutique it would be titled "Bed, Baphomet, and Beyond."This officially is the worst pun of the year, so there. That was such an emphatic snort on my part, it actually hurt. It may have cleaned out my sinuses too. Edited February 22, 2013 by calmoriah 1
Damien the Leper Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 I know I have a right to know why my baptism was revoked. I really do appreciate the wonderful love and support from my friends here. But I honestly don't have the strength or energy to pursue it further.
Tacenda Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Wow who said any thing about vengeance . We all judge every day . It is natural ."When does the fighting stop ." It depend what you are fighting for . For liberty , justice and freedom , I think never .Well my intention was not to get any one to retaliate or to fight . I was just trying to be supportave of some one that felt treated unjustly . It seems to me my attempt to be a part of the conversation was not accepted and not welcomedApologiies for posting here . My bad . Good luck in you endeavorsSalvar, I saw just where you were coming from and the support you had given. I sub in the school district and on the terrible days my husband will say something like "I'd slap that kid" or something so opposite of what I would ever do that he knows it makes me laugh because he knows all I need at that moment was a release. What you did was similar in that you were supporting or siding with "V", not unlike when a parent will do this. Also, you had made a good point about if it was the fault of someone other than"V" that it might need to be corrected if he was treated unfairly.
Libs Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 Where do you attend now Libs?I've been attending a Hindu-Christian Church that I had actually joined, many years ago. It is Christ centered, but very eastern in philosophy. We do a lot of meditating. I like it. However, my husband recently returned to the Christian Reformed Church we were attending, together, for a little over a year. I'm going to be going with him for awhile...probably alternating Sundays. I'm not really fond of Reformed theology (to say the least), but this church is very special....very warm and friendly Pastor and some great people. It's a pleasant place to worship.
Damien the Leper Posted February 22, 2013 Author Posted February 22, 2013 Were I ever to open a satanist boutique it would be titled "Bed, Baphomet, and Beyond."This officially is the worst pun of the year, so there.I loved it!
Sleeper Cell Posted February 22, 2013 Posted February 22, 2013 I don't have the energy to put into such a fight. Disciplinary actions such as this, or worse, say more about the institution than the individual. Forgiveness, compassion and mercy come from God and not a church that disciplines.A church that disciplines is one thing. A church that disciplines without making it absolutely clear to the member exactly why he is being disciplined, is quite another. How can one repent and seek forgiveness for something, unless one knows what that something is?FWIW, I have had a somewhat analogous experience. After putting much of my heart and soul into a secular volunteer organization, the “powers that be” disbanded it (i.e., disciplined the entire membership), stating reasons that were incredibly petty, even by bureaucratic standards). Even so, I can only imagine the pain and disappointment you must be feeling.Eventually, a similar group heard what had happened and invited me to join them. Ultimately, I ended up in a position with more opportunities to make a difference than I ever could have had in my former organization. I am sure that there are many churches that would love to have you.
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