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Finding Out Something About A Church Employee That Could Possibly Get Them In Trouble


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If you found out something about a Church employee that could possibly get them canned, if not shown the door a meeting with someone for sure, would you say anything? No one would be harmed by their activity but would you say something?

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My first reaction would be to talk directly to the individual about their action. If this is their personal problem, then I would allow them to work it out themself. If this is something that can affect others in a detrimental fashion, then it is another kettle of fish.

A balancing act between a respect for privacy and a respect for the organization. Only if the organization is harmed is its privacy violated.

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My first reaction would be to talk directly to the individual about their action. If this is their personal problem, then I would allow them to work it out themself. If this is something that can affect others in a detrimental fashion, then it is another kettle of fish.

A balancing act between a respect for privacy and a respect for the organization. Only if the organization is harmed is its privacy violated.

No, I wouldn't rat them out. Storm Rider is completely correct.

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No, I wouldn't rat them out. Storm Rider is completely correct.

I agree, but the scriptures are clear as to what you should do personally...he is your brother or sister. The Lord only has the flawed to work with, if no one would get hurt then it is not a matter for the public, unless it evolves stealing from the Church.

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If you don't know them it would make it difficult to participate in the role of a counselor or be a source of aid; not impossible just difficult. This sounds like you learned something by accident and now you must keep a confidence. You are on the sidelines and can't really play in this game unless some things change.

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If you don't know them it would make it difficult to participate in the role of a counselor or be a source of aid; not impossible just difficult. This sounds like you learned something by accident and now you must keep a confidence. You are on the sidelines and can't really play in this game unless some things change.

Well, that is just it. I found out something by accident that in other similar situations someone was fired for it. If I say something now then something may happen and I don't want to be involved or if I say nothing then it could get worse and someone else finds out and that also could be bad

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Let me guess. You found out that a church employee is using his time posting on these forums during work hours and you want to know if you should turn them in?

haha! no, no, no! A friend told me about a choir she was in and she didn't tell me the link and so I had to dig around for it and finally found it on the local CES guy's youtube profile and also found on said youtube profile were some questionable videos....of an inappropriate nature shall we say... But I don't know him or anything, I don't know if he watches that stuff or what is going on but I dunno what to do

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haha! no, no, no! A friend told me about a choir she was in and she didn't tell me the link and so I had to dig around for it and finally found it on the local CES guy's youtube profile and also found on said youtube profile were some questionable videos....of an inappropriate nature shall we say... But I don't know him or anything, I don't know if he watches that stuff or what is going on but I dunno what to do

Hey Duncan! You guys enjoying our Hockey Team?

My daughter had some very inappropriate comments put on her Facebook site by a friend. Before she could correct them her Grandma saw them and was very shocked. With on-line resources the "evidence" is possible already one step removed from this persons control.

The system of confession and discipline within the church is voluntary except in cases of predatory behavior. Someone presenting evidence to an ecclesiastical leader as a third party can be very problematic and make a private confession impossible becuase of the public revealing of the situation. This can put the person you are concerned about in a very bad situation and make handling his case difficult for his Bishop, Stake President, etc. In the case of church employment that also means putting his livelihood at risk.

Encouraging him privately to repent or correct the misunderstanding is a better approach than making it public. Allow him the chance to corect the error or repent.

Doctrine and Covenants 42 deals with how to correct...

88 And if thy brother or sister offend thee, thou shalt take him or her between him or her and thee alone; and if he or she confess thou shalt be reconciled.

89 And if he or she confess not thou shalt deliver him or her up unto the church, not to the members, but to the elders. And it shall be done in a meeting, and that not before the world.

90 And if thy brother or sister offend many, he or she shall be chastened before many.

91 And if any one offend openly, he or she shall be rebuked openly, that he or she may be ashamed. And if he or she confess not, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of God.

92 If any shall offend in secret, he or she shall be rebuked in secret, that he or she may have opportunity to confess in secret to him or her whom he or she has offended, and to God, that the church may not speak reproachfully of him or her.

93 And thus shall ye conduct in all things.

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Hey Duncan! You guys enjoying our Hockey Team?

My daughter had some very inappropriate comments put on her Facebook site by a friend. Before she could correct them her Grandma saw them and was very shocked. With on-line resources the "evidence" is possible already one step removed from this persons control.

The system of confession and discipline within the church is voluntary except in cases of predatory behavior. Someone presenting evidence to an ecclesiastical leader as a third party can be very problematic and make a private confession impossible becuase of the public revealing of the situation. This can put the person you are concerned about in a very bad situation and make handling his case difficult for his Bishop, Stake President, etc. In the case of church employment that also means putting his livelihood at risk.

Encouraging him privately to repent or correct the misunderstanding is a better approach than making it public. Allow him the chance to corect the error or repent.

Doctrine and Covenants 42 deals with how to correct...

brother or sister boffend thee, thou shalt take him or her between him or her and thee alone; and if he or she cconfess thou shalt be dreconciled.

meeting, and that not before the world.

chastened before many.

openly, he or she shall be rebuked openly, that he or she may be bashamed. And if he or she confess not, he or she shall be delivered up unto the law of God.

93 And thus shall ye conduct in all things.

All very true, and yeah, if his wife or kid found it what then? and yeah is what you think is going on what is really going on? I wish I hadn't known this stuff! Yes! we enjoying your team very much, I hope they do better in the regular season though!

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All very true, and yeah, if his wife or kid found it what then? and yeah is what you think is going on what is really going on? I wish I hadn't known this stuff!

You may be able to PM or post on his account and warn him either way. Hopefully it is a mistake, but even if it is something he did giving him a chance to repent before he is publicly shamed could save his job and marriage.

Believe me there are things I wish I didn't know about some of my brethren and sisters. I have to have faith in them that they will do the right thing and faith in Jesus Christ that the atonement has paid for all sins.

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So I emailed him. I couldn't on his youtube account because you have to be added as a friend and I am not but I emailed him via facebook. I did the right thing and I feel terrible!!!! I hope he doesn't email me back and just takes it off and does whatever he needs to do.

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So I emailed him. I couldn't on his youtube account because you have to be added as a friend and I am not but I emailed him via facebook. I did the right thing and I feel terrible!!!! I hope he doesn't email me back and just takes it off and does whatever he needs to do.

I think you did the right thing by warning him privately. Even if he does respond you can tell him that you will stay out of his business but you were truly concerned for his welfare.

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I think you did the right thing by warning him privately. Even if he does respond you can tell him that you will stay out of his business but you were truly concerned for his welfare.

he emailed me back and said it was spam or something but appreciated my telling him because his kids go on there, and I give him the benefit of the doubt! now I can eat again!

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Good man.

If it happens in the future, you might want to consider creating an email account for this specific purpose just in case it does backfire. I was going to mention this but you had already posted. I am glad this worked out for you.

I can so relate to the whole nausea in the stomach. Not a pleasant feeling, but it's a sign that you care and that's important and good.

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All very true, and yeah, if his wife or kid found it what then? and yeah is what you think is going on what is really going on? I wish I hadn't known this stuff! Yes! we enjoying your team very much, I hope they do better in the regular season though!

Yes information can be a heavy burden sometimes. Sometimes we get something we wish we hadn't gone looking for. Now you have it in my opinion you have two choices. 1) Back off and forget you have ever seen it or 2) Contact him privatly and let him know the information is there. There may be a harmless explanation.

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I would stay out of it if it's none of your business. You're talking about messing up his livelihood and family. Some things are more important and who's to say whatever it is you caught him doing he isn't already working with his Bishop on?

I wish I hadn't known any of it! haha! and you're right it could mess up his whole life and heck over henry I don't want to get involved. i figure it would be better if I told him then his kids or wife or boss finds out and then he would really be in trouble, so i emailed him and told him and he emailed me back it it was removed and if it really is a problem for him then he knows now where not to watch it or whatever

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Aren't you glad you emailed him? It sounds like he didn't even know it was there. My brother is a Bishop and some virus got into his email and sent out porn links to all the people in his address books--including our dad (ward members, stake leaders, etc. Stuff like that can happen to completely unsuspecting (and innocent) people!

Sorry to hear that about your brother and yeah stuff happens! I am glad I emailed him, although as I was saying to Calmoriah I felt sick and couldn't even eat me lunch in anticipation for his email response and I don't even know the guy but it got sorted out. I felt better afterwards. He emailed like six times because it could ruin his reputation and job and the fall would be hard and I told him I don't believe he looks at Porn but I hope he believes me and I just left it at that

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