Planet plan

[MustardSeed]

Never mind.  Apparently I’m worse than not a scholar, im actually ignorant. 

I feel often times like I took a nap and woke up to a weird new religion, and that the old one was a fever dream. 

Edited December 7, 2025 by MustardSeed

[blackstrap]

2,,4,,6,,8, come on folks let's speculate.

Such an idea has been thrown around in the past. It is probably based on following the concept that God was once like us and has progressed. If that is true , then progressing to get a place to create spirits and place mortals is not a huge jump in logic. That said , it is pure speculation without firm scriptural backing. Broad  scripture interpretation of statements like we will inherit ALL the God has, can lead to such thinking. Personally, I have a tall shelf set aside for these kinds of ideas.

[InCognitus]

That's no moon, it's a space station.  And of course the death star plans are not in the main computer.

[MustardSeed]

19 minutes ago, InCognitus said:

That's no moon, it's a space station.  And of course the death star plans are not in the main computer.

I mean you joke but seriously I was led to believe this garbage as a young person.  It’s so embarrassing and I feel crazy.  What else am I off the mark on?  What else is nonsense?
 

Im learning- that apparently- a lot is.  

Edited December 7, 2025 by MustardSeed

[InCognitus]

2 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

I mean you joke but seriously I was led to believe this garbage as a young person.  It’s so embarrassing and I feel crazy.  What else am I off the mark on?  What else is nonsense?
 

Im learning- that apparently- a lot is.  

I was only joking about the title of the thread.  I have no idea what your original comment was (since you edited it), and I don't care to know since you have retracted it.  We all have had things we have done or thought at one time that we now regret, and it's too bad the edit function doesn't work on life's problems as easily as it can be done on this board.  The Atonement of Christ is for that purpose in life of course.

[MustardSeed]

13 minutes ago, InCognitus said:

I was only joking about the title of the thread

Of course.  No issues, but I am annoyed that something taught so prevalently in my young life never was true. 
 

I had to erase because the question I asked was easily answered with a simple google search, and I would have looked more stupid in front of everyone here than I enjoy looking 😂

[Pyreaux]

17 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

Never mind.  Apparently I’m worse than not a scholar, im actually ignorant. 

I feel often times like I took a nap and woke up to a weird new religion, and that the old one was a fever dream. 

Um, do I gather you feel bad for believing an inspiring, deeply ingrained traditional belief of getting your own planet with the official, modern Church disavowing the idea as "speculative comments unreflective of scriptural doctrine"?

It is not false just because it not been deemed true, in fact I still think it's very probably true. The church is just not overselling the idea as doctrine. It may be wise to have a healthy limit to our expectations, but do not put Eternal Progression in a box either. Odds are the conservative or metaphysical ideas of the Father's uniqueness we're trying to tolerate in the church here is likely bogus. And why stop at a planet? Why not our own pocket universe? Our universe is just a mini universe in a giant black hole.

Exaltation, becoming like God in character, power, and knowledge, is still doctrine. Eternal Increase, having spirit children is still doctrine. Dominion, the power and authority to preside over one's spirit family is still doctrine. The specific location or physical structure of that dominion is not doctrine. But more than likely a planet will be involved at some point, we just don't know whose exactly it will be. It's natural to assume it would be yours.

The highest promise of the Celestial Kingdom is that the exalted receive all that the Father hath (D&C 76:94; 84:38). Since the Father is a Creator, all that potential is still inherently included, until we are told we won't, which is not what the Church said.

The official Church statement doesn't deny the power to create or govern worlds; it simply denies that the specific expectation of "getting your own planet", is precisely what it is. In fact, the ultimate outcome is likely far grander than simply ruling a single planet. I'd think it's about being a Creator in the fullest sense.

The ultimate expression of godhood is the ability to organize matter and intelligence. Whether that organization is a planet, a star system, a galaxy, or an entire universe is a question of scale, not principle. If the Book of Moses states that God has created "worlds without number" (Moses 1:33) and that His work is eternal. This suggests creation is ongoing and infinite, we may need a more expansive view of what a "dominion" might entail.

The Church is simply correcting for the record this is technically a folk doctrine, it doesn't diminish the incredible scope of the promise, it may actually have simply removed the cap of it merely being a planet.

Edited December 7, 2025 by Pyreaux

[The Nehor]

16 minutes ago, Pyreaux said:

Our universe as it is just a mini universe in a giant black hole.

That is a theory that is only possibly valid if certain speculative forms of physics are true. It recently got popular because the rotation of galaxies matches to a degree what this theory would require. Of course there are also lots of other possible explanations.

It makes for good clickbait though.

[JVW]

On 12/6/2025 at 8:09 PM, InCognitus said:

That's no moon, it's a space station.  And of course the death star plans are not in the main computer.

If you want to have a fun 20 minutes check out this video. You won't regret it, it's super fun.  

 

[InCognitus]

4 hours ago, JVW said:

If you want to have a fun 20 minutes check out this video. You won't regret it, it's super fun.  

Maybe that's where the lost 10 tribes have been hiding instead of inside the hollow earth?  (And yes, I have heard a few people say that in the past).

[JVW]

21 minutes ago, InCognitus said:

Maybe that's where the lost 10 tribes have been hiding instead of inside the hollow earth?  (And yes, I have heard a few people say that in the past).

lol, my vote was hiding in the hollow earth. The moon is just a much less efficient place to have a hideout considering it's hundreds of thousands of miles away, whereas hiding a hundred miles below ground with main portals at the poles and secret portals around the world just seems like a smarter plan that requires less gas.

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, JVW said:

lol, my vote was hiding in the hollow earth. The moon is just a much less efficient place to have a hideout considering it's hundreds of thousands of miles away, whereas hiding a hundred miles below ground with main portals at the poles and secret portals around the world just seems like a smarter plan that requires less gas.

As long as it’s vast underground caravans and not actually a hollow earth with its own ‘sun’ at the core as the forces involved for that might be more than requiring them to go to the moon and create a livable environment there…though now I think of it if that has a sun as well, that eliminates that difference….warning, warning, something shiny up ahead.  I will not go check out what would be required for that to even be considered scientifically possible in some form (an artificial sun much smaller and cooler of course).

[ZealouslyStriving]

4 hours ago, InCognitus said:

Maybe that's where the lost 10 tribes have been hiding instead of inside the hollow earth?  (And yes, I have heard a few people say that in the past).

There are a couple accounts of visions of the Hollow Earth that make the rounds among some pockets of conservative RLDS (Restoration Branches) people.

[InCognitus]

1 hour ago, ZealouslyStriving said:

There are a couple accounts of visions of the Hollow Earth that make the rounds among some pockets of conservative RLDS (Restoration Branches) people.

Most of the stories I heard were likely "inspired" by the Edgar Rice Burroughs book, At the Earth's Core. 

[MiserereNobis]

“For the World is Hollow, and I Have Touched the Sky”

 

[Calm]

7 hours ago, InCognitus said:

Most of the stories I heard were likely "inspired" by the Edgar Rice Burroughs book, At the Earth's Core. 

Yes, it would be interesting to see if there were any such visions prior to ERB’s book or whatever was his source. 

 

[JVW]

14 hours ago, ZealouslyStriving said:

There are a couple accounts of visions of the Hollow Earth that make the rounds among some pockets of conservative RLDS (Restoration Branches) people.

links?

[ZealouslyStriving]

1 hour ago, JVW said:

links?

It's more accounts that get passed around the members. One is, if I remember correctly, a vision that the kind of matriarch figure in the area of the country had- so it's more a localized thing. I don't remember much about the other one.

I'll try to do some searching, but I'm not super hopeful that I'll find it.