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  1. You are using the word "potential" as an obfuscation in an attempt to justify murder. This zygote was human at the very moment of fertilization. Its DNA is distinct and unique from the mother (as well as from the father). Abortionists use abhorrent propaganda claiming that the fetus is just an organ in the woman's body. I reject your "thought experiment" on the fertility clinic but I will answer that the toddler has first priority. God will help with the rest, His Will be done. I am uncertain that God would approve of the business of fertility clinics in warehousing frozen embryos and sperm banks.
  2. Abortion is NEVER moral no matter what system of philosophy you cater to.
  3. As usual, you have defaulted to ad hominem slander and attacks. In other threads you have castigateed the Falun Gong but when I asked what your problem was with them, you never had a good reason. No one has even begun to explain just who the Q's and the Anons are. Just a flimsy and vague paranoid conspiracy theory on the part of the deranged left. Please cite any article in which Epoch has voiced support for the totalitarianism of Putin and his ilk. Which is strange coming from you since you have expressed numerous times your fondness for the antics of antifas.
  4. In your estimation. But you don't know every situation, do you? It is NOT an estimation but a realistic acknowledgement of the travails of mortality. Just because life is sometimes onerous and difficult and even devastating, there is NO justification for murder of the innocent. In very RARE cases, the church allows for abortion if the mother is in danger. What you are doing is parroting the propaganda of the godless communist social engineers and subversives remaking society into their image. Pregnancy the result of rape? My inclination is everyone involved should accept the new child and if necessary give the child up for adoption. Difficult as it may be.
  5. Situation does NOT justify murder or convenience. The unborn has self awareness, feelings, ability to listen to people speaking/singing outside of the womb, etc.
  6. "The Epoch Times" is a wonderful breath of fresh air and very insightful. They provide a weekly print publication as well as multiple web sources.
  7. Finally! A voice of reason.
  8. Among that minority is a radical fringe contingent that bald-facedly advocates for the right of "parents" to terminate the life of a child up to the age of eight years!
  9. Two key differences here: 1- inducing does NOT harm the baby (it merely hastens the birthing process); 2- if the mother is dying, all the more reason for extricating the baby before the mother's biological systems shut down.
  10. Interesting that you have no defense for bizarre transvestites from outer space prancing in front of innocent little ones.
  11. There is an avalanche of indoctrination. Not just in public schools but in the corporate world, colleges, dominant media, etc. Witness the extremes of Disney Corporation. The public is pushing back at them and Florida is finally rethinking the lucrative tax treatment of Disney's "amusement" parks. If you think that transvestites behaving weirdly and adorned in ridiculous paraphernalia grandstanding to the little ones in public libraries is NOT propaganda then you are off your rocker. The incidents of teachers behaving inappropriately with students conceivably could greatly outnumber those of the Catholic Church and other large institutions.
  12. Are you familiar with the works of Stephen Meyer? He does not appear to be a run of the mill knee jerk creationist but has extensively explored questions in the "fundamentals" of science. He styles himself as a Philosopher of Science. His website is https://stephencmeyer.org/ At the end of your youtube video, you touched on Adam and Eve. The question can be asked if the bodies of "pre-humanoids" were selected by God for Adam and Eve then were the spirit bodies of Michael the Archangel and some exalted female personage inserted into selected physical bodies? Did the "pre-humanoids" have spirit bodies also (contained within their physical bodies)? How did the Justice of God operate in those instances? What happened to those displaced spirits in the "pre-humanoid" species? Were the "pre-humanoids" subject to imperfections and death? Were the physical bodies of and Adam and Eve perfected in the Terrestrial sense and made immortal? What was the state of the Earth at that time? What was necessary before the Fall could be started and the Plan of Happiness put into operation? Many, many more questions can be posed.
  13. The use of the term "homophobia" was weaponized for the purpose of shaming people that express their reluctance to celebrate the lifestyle. @california boyuse of the oxford definition feels more like propaganda than a legitimate description of a segment of the population that are less than enthusiastic about various aspects of the lifestyle. As some would say, people can love the sinner but hate the sin. It is NOT always about hate. Joining "homo" with "phobia" has the effect of labeling people as being extremely irrational. This is outrageously unfair to people who have different perspectives.
  14. Our God is a gracious God. I have NO problem with children of all ages and abilities to obtain the SPIRIT as they read this greatest work literature and revelation IN ALL OF HISTORY. You need an attitude adjustment, bro.
  15. The more parents lose their prerogatives for raising their children in accordance with their values, the greater the stresses for the whole. The more the outrages will be expressed, mostly peaceful. But some fringe elements will come out the woodwork to commit violence. As I said, the violence will most likely be unjustified.
  16. Consider the big picture: parents have less say about whether their children should be exposed to sex education, reading assignments containing soft porn (or outright abusive language, shocking violence, etc), school counselors advising young children on contraceptives and abortion referrals (keeping it secret from the parents), giving guidance and/or encouragement for children to question their gender and engage in experiments, not reporting forthrightly on incidents of bullying, pushing for medication to sedate 'troublesome" children to be more compliant at school, and on and on. This is a long standing problem in which the schools, various government agencies, prevailing culture have pressed ever increasing influence on the heart and minds of young people. Thus causing parents to lose more and more of their prerogatives for rearing their children. Their legal authority is steadily being shifted to the nanny state. This has been the pattern for several decades. Now we are seeing more of the trans "recruitment" events at schools, libraries, public parades, and maybe some churches. This has the effect of grooming innocents to be receptive to taking a bizarre and deviant lifestyle. Most would agree that resorting to violence in an attempt to reverse these trends cannot be tolerated and would be counterproductive. What is to be done to protect the family? Will the movement for homeschooling accelerate?
  17. Being baptized into the Body of Christ and being active in good faithful service are all important. Remaining steadfast and enduring to the end of mortality is also important. But they are all individual choices for which everyone one of us will answer to the Great Jehovah at the last day.
  18. My understanding from the Endowment session is that Lucifer actually did give the "fruit of the tree" to them (the Adams of ALL the other worlds). This is affirmed by the pointed question Heavenly Father asked of Lucifer. Therefore ALL of them did transgress the prohibition of the fruit of the tree. All did fall. As has been stated earlier in the thread, this Earth is the only planet in which the Savior performed the Atonement. I suppose this Earth is host to the most wicked spirits (that still kept the First Estate) and the most righteous spirits, both from the Pre-Existence. The Atonement not only is applicable to this Earth but is very much applicable to all the other worlds (even though they did NOT have the Savior be physically born into their respective worlds). This is probably the only difference. I am wondering if this Earth (with its special status of having the Savior be born into it) was held to be the last so as to allow Lucifer to complete his work of "subversion" of all other worlds before he finally was condemned in this last world. In order for all the spirits from the pre-existence (the First Estate) to be able to participate in the Second Estate. Which requires a Fall to be initiated. Which is necessary for the Plan of Happiness to actually become operative. So crucial for having mortal experiences that help them to become like Heavenly Father.
  19. It was one or the other but NOT both. This is called exclusive OR. NOT either or both or even neither. Adam and Eve already had the utopia of being in the Garden of Eden and NOT subject to death. But this bliss would NOT enable Adam and Eve to bear children. For it would have been contrary to the Plan of Happiness. This Plan could NOT have been started or implemented without them partaking of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Heavenly Father deliberately set up the CHOICE for Adam and Eve to voluntarily enter into the Second Estate so that they will truly exercise their Free Agency without being overwhelmed by the Presence of members of the Godhead. There is a reason the Godhead excused Themselves away from the Garden of Eden, saying "we will go away" thus leaving the couple to grapple with Lucifer. The choice had to be made. They could obey one or the other but NOT both. I have wondered if Adam and Eve understood that there was a conflict between the two commandments (1- be fruitful and multiply; 2- do not partake of the Tree of Knowledge). Could they have decided to wait until the Godhead returned to them so they could ask how to resolve the dilemma? How long could they have waited?
  20. Your response is incoherent and disjointed. I know of no one that would thank the little ones for being caught in a mass killing. Why would you even say that I am indifferent? I think you are going way overboard. Maybe Nehor can give you some therapy.
  21. I wouldn’t call that percentage particularly meangingful. Citizens acting to save others around them and taking out the active shooter thankfully happens more often than not. This should be considered substantially significant!
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