The Alchemist

[MustardSeed]

I’ve heard of this book-  But was recently inspired to read it by an acquaintance through work. 

I’m listening in audible.  I let it read me to sleep- it’s a good one for that.  But last night the main character meets with a Wise Man who is named Melchizedek who uses two truth stones called a “ureem and thumeem” (this is how the reader pronounces it)-

i was nearly asleep and this jolted me awake.  I’ve never heard these things outside of the BOM.  

I know I’m in poor company as I’m not well read in these matters.  I can hear eyes rolling as I type. 

That is all. 

Edited May 5, 2019 by MustardSeed

[Metis_LDS]

4 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

“ureem and thumeem” (this is how the reader pronounces it)-

Yes I have heard this pronunciation before on a program about the stones as used by the High Priest in Solomon's Temple.

[pogi]

2 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

I'm listening in audible.  I let it read me to sleep- it’s a good one for that.

Hey, I love that book!

[MustardSeed]

22 minutes ago, pogi said:

Hey, I love that book!

Lol I enjoy it too. It takes my mind off my life and allows me to relax.  

[Robert F. Smith]

3 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

.......................... last night the main character meets with a Wise Man who is named Melchizedek who uses two truth stones called a “ureem and thumeem” (this is how the reader pronounces it)-

.............................  I’ve never heard these things outside of the BOM.  .........................

The Hebrew pronunciation is ooreem we toomeem, in KJV form as Urim & Thummim (Exodus 28:30, Numbers 27:21, 1 Samuel 14:41, 28:6), which never appear  in the Book of Mormon, although many confuse the Nephite Interpreters with them.  They are not the same thing at all.  John Calvin described the properties of the Urim & Thummim as follows:

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The Urim was a conspicuous stone in the priestly dress, brilliant with a certain extraordinary light as even the word itself, which means brilliance, makes known.  And this brightness of the stone was a sign of the prophecy to be received as necessity required, just as when God himself flashes in darkness in whom alone is all perfection and completeness.

Hugh Nibley suggested a relationship with the Wr & Tm stones worn by the Wr-mЗw,  the “Great Seer” of On (the High Priest at Heliopolis, Egypt).  Nibley, Dialogue, 3/2:104.

[rockpond]

I loved that book.  Really beautiful and inspiring.  I need to put it back into my rotation and give it another read as it's been about a decade since the last time.

[Scott Lloyd]

On 5/5/2019 at 10:37 AM, MustardSeed said:

I’ve heard of this book-  But was recently inspired to read it by an acquaintance through work. 

I’m listening in audible.  I let it read me to sleep- it’s a good one for that.  But last night the main character meets with a Wise Man who is named Melchizedek who uses two truth stones called a “ureem and thumeem” (this is how the reader pronounces it)-

i was nearly asleep and this jolted me awake.  I’ve never heard these things outside of the BOM.  

I know I’m in poor company as I’m not well read in these matters.  I can hear eyes rolling as I type. 

That is all. 

I watched a “Jeopardy!” episode years ago in which one of the questions pertained to the translation of the Book of Mormon. Alex Trebek pronounced Urim and Thummim in that manner. I suppose we Latter-day Saints are the ones with a quirky pronunciation. 

[Garden Girl]

On 5/10/2019 at 8:56 PM, Scott Lloyd said:

I watched a “Jeopardy!” episode years ago in which one of the questions pertained to the translation of the Book of Mormon. Alex Trebek pronounced Urim and Thummim in that manner. I suppose we Latter-day Saints are the ones with a quirky pronunciation. 

I watch Jeopardy almost every night... love it.  I've chuckled because I think someone responsible for questions is LDS because often there is a question pertaining to the CoJCoLDS...

GG

[Bernard Gui]

On 5/5/2019 at 9:37 AM, MustardSeed said:

I’ve heard of this book-  But was recently inspired to read it by an acquaintance through work. 

I’m listening in audible.  I let it read me to sleep- it’s a good one for that.  But last night the main character meets with a Wise Man who is named Melchizedek who uses two truth stones called a “ureem and thumeem” (this is how the reader pronounces it)-

i was nearly asleep and this jolted me awake.  I’ve never heard these things outside of the BOM.  

I know I’m in poor company as I’m not well read in these matters.  I can hear eyes rolling as I type. 

That is all. 

The Urim v’tummim from a Jewish source...https://www.templeinstitute.org/beged/priestly_garments-8.htm

Compare with Joseph’s method of translating the Book of Mormon.

 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Bernard Gui