Temple Recommend

[tyler90az]

My wife and I were planning on going to the Temple tomorrow. We just found out her recommend expires today. Can we get in tomorrow?

Are they still every two years or three now?

[Calm]

They are every two years and no, you can not. The same thing happened to me two months ago, one day after it expired because my husband was certain it was one more year...I called up the temple and asked if I could go since I was going with the bishop (he and his wife were going with us)...no go even with him being able to say it was okay because the SP also needed to sign on. They are much more strict then they used to be, understandably so.

[Saints Alive]

Only if you can get the SP and Bishop to interview you by then. As Cal said they are more strict now-a-days

[cdowis]

Even the temple president cannot help you. It is computerized and they are very strict on dates.

[JAHS]

You have to interview with the bishop, then interview with a member of the SP, who then has to scan the barcoded recommend into the system, all done today. Not sure if it's even possible.

[thesometimesaint]

You have to interview with the bishop, then interview with a member of the SP, who then has to scan the barcoded recommend into the system, all done today. Not sure if it's even possible.

It's theoretically possible to do, but extremely unlikely.

Edited May 1, 2013 by thesometimesaint

[dgd]

You have to interview with the bishop, then interview with a member of the SP, who then has to scan the barcoded recommend into the system, all done today. Not sure if it's even possible.

to be a bit more precise:

Interview with your Bishop or a counselor

Interview with Stake President, or a counselor

Member of the Stake Presidency (or Stake Clerk) then enters the recommend into the system, either with a bar code scanner, or via a webpage.

I was recently a Stake Clerk and I never once used the bar code scanner. In fact I rarely entered recommends into the system. The Stake Presidency usually did it themselves online when they got home after doing interviews.

[Saints Alive]

Member of the Stake Presidency (or Stake Clerk) then enters the recommend into the system, either with a bar code scanner, or via a webpage.

...The Stake Presidency usually did it themselves online when they got home after doing interviews.

At my last interview the SP counselor activated my recommend on his ipad before I left the interview.

[mfbukowski]

You have to interview with the bishop, then interview with a member of the SP, who then has to scan the barcoded recommend into the system, all done today. Not sure if it's even possible.

It doesn't have to be entered. In cases of stake chapel sessions, where both the bishop and SP are both together in the temple, the interviews can be done on the spot, and the patron admitted, without the rec. being entered.

A reasonable period is allowed, to allow for entry delays, but you will probably have to talk to the temple recorder to get admitted.

Edited May 3, 2013 by mfbukowski

[Buzzard]

I went to the temple a week or so after getting my recommend, and when they scanned to bar code, the computer beeped. The temple worker frowned, said "We might have a problem here", and went to a phone. Apparently they reached the stake clerk, who confirmed that he was behind on entering new recommends, but found either found mine in his book or recognized the number sequence, or ????. Anyway, they came back, apologized for the delay, and waved me in. The next time the computer did not beep, so no issue.

[theplains]

I went to the temple a week or so after getting my recommend, and when they scanned to bar code, the computer beeped. The temple worker frowned, said "We might have a problem here", and went to a phone. Apparently they reached the stake clerk, who confirmed that he was behind on entering new recommends, but found either found mine in his book or recognized the number sequence, or ????. Anyway, they came back, apologized for the delay, and waved me in. The next time the computer did not beep, so no issue.

I think a better way would be to make appointments ahead of time with names and dates. After

all, I don't expect to find dishonest Mormons visiting their temples. Hopefully the church will

not have to resort to using lie detectors or metal detectors next to prevent authorized

recordings.

Jim

[Buzzard]

I think a better way would be to make appointments ahead of time with names and dates. After

all, I don't expect to find dishonest Mormons visiting their temples. Hopefully the church will

not have to resort to using lie detectors or metal detectors next to prevent authorized

recordings.

Jim

I think what the system does is make it so a bishop or stake president can temporarily or permanently disable the ability of a member who holds a recommend to enter a temple. Years ago, I remember seeing a typewritten list at the recommend desk of people with recommends they were not to allow entry to. Now all a bishop or SP has to do is log in, type in a bar code number, and voila, that person could not enter a temple anywhere in the world.

[Tacenda]

Sorry to horn in on this topic but need advice. My TR recently expired and I'm afraid to renew given my testimony issues.... but next month my nephew will be married and we are close enough that I think he would be pretty disappointed if I didn't show up for the ceremony. My old bishop now turned SP is aware of my issues with church history. Does a person like me warrant a TR, or wait until I'm a fully believing member? Is it unfair to others? And I've kept all my covenants, just not the belief thing. It's a quandary that will stay in place for quite some time I believe, help.

Edited May 4, 2013 by Tacenda

[Calm]

If I were you, I would reread Holland's talk and then I would discuss it with my bishop, see if he feels comfortable with that level of discomfort. You often sound harder on yourself than I think you need to be. You might be surprised.

Or you could do what a friend of mine later confesses to me when she was not able truthfully answer the questions (though hers was a morality issue)...she arranged a medical procedure that just had to take place on that day for her daughter so she could not be there.

[Tacenda]

If I were you, I would reread Holland's talk and then I would discuss it with my bishop, see if he feels comfortable with that level of discomfort. You often sound harder on yourself than I think you need to be. You might be surprised.

Or you could do what a friend of mine later confesses to me when she was not able truthfully answer the questions (though hers was a morality issue)...she arranged a medical procedure that just had to take place on that day for her daughter so she could not be there.

It's so embarrassing now, my neighbor is now the bishop and our sons hang out. Just embarrassing I guess. Thanks for the advice and you made me smile with your comment about your friend.

[Hamba Tuhan]

Does a person like me warrant a TR, or wait until I'm a fully believing member?

Speaking personally, if you were in my ward, I'd want you to meet and discuss your situation with me. As I said to a sister just this past Sunday in a follow-up to an earlier temple recommend interview, 'I'm here to help'. Of course, if you lived in my ward, we would never have let your recommend just expire...

Edited May 4, 2013 by Hamba Tuhan

[telnetd]

I think what the system does is make it so a bishop or stake president can temporarily or permanently disable the ability of a member who holds a recommend to enter a temple. Years ago, I remember seeing a typewritten list at the recommend desk of people with recommends they were not to allow entry to. Now all a bishop or SP has to do is log in, type in a bar code number, and voila, that person could not enter a temple anywhere in the world.

What would a Mormon, whose temple recommend was revoked, still hope

to accomplish by going to the temple? Do they really believe they can fool

God?

Gail

[DH]

My wife and I were planning on going to the Temple tomorrow. We just found out her recommend expires today. Can we get in tomorrow?

Are they still every two years or three now?

Yes, if you can see a member of the bishopric and a member of the stake presidency to get a new recommend before then. But no, the person at entrance of the temple will not accept an expired recommend.

Edited May 4, 2013 by DH

[ERayR]

What would a Mormon, whose temple recommend was revoked, still hope

to accomplish by going to the temple? Do they really believe they can fool

God?

Gail

There are those who would and do witness, and with miniature cameras, film the sacred temple ordinances in order to ridicule and deride them and those who receive them. In reality the claim that those ordinances have nothing to do with God so the have no fear of retributions by God.

[Tacenda]

Speaking personally, if you were in my ward, I'd want you to meet and discuss your situation with me. As I said to a sister just this past Sunday in a follow-up to an earlier temple recommend interview, 'I'm here to help'. Of course, if you lived in my ward, we would never have let your recommend just expire...

I know huh? I feel like I have a disease to those that might be aware of my issues. The Stake President won't even touch it. No one has called to see if we need to get in to get our TR's renewed, which use to be quite common, maybe it's just that we have a new bishopric. I think I will just bite the bullet and go in for my recommend and be honest and see what comes. And I will just deal with it. I feel in your ward Hamba you all seem very much like family, our ward isn't like that, we are known to be the almost perfect ward and all (attendence, service, etc.) but I just don't feel that closeness or it could be me.

[ERayR]

I know huh? I feel like I have a disease to those that might be aware of my issues. The Stake President won't even touch it. No one has called to see if we need to get in to get our TR's renewed, which use to be quite common, maybe it's just that we have a new bishopric. I think I will just bite the bullet and go in for my recommend and be honest and see what comes. And I will just deal with it. I feel in your ward Hamba you all seem very much like family, our ward isn't like that, we are known to be the almost perfect ward and all (attendence, service, etc.) but I just don't feel that closeness or it could be me.

Probably some of bothe but the good news is you can work on the part that is yours and that may be just enough to make things better. Hang in there and give it a go.

[telnetd]

There are those who would and do witness, and with miniature cameras, film the sacred temple ordinances in order to ridicule and deride them and those who receive them.

I have never been to a temple, but there is nothing of a sacred nature

that happens in the church I go to that would be a cause of ridicule or

derision if one wanted to tape it and put it on youtube. They are

sacred but they are not secret.

Gail

[ERayR]

I have never been to a temple, but there is nothing of a sacred nature

that happens in the church I go to that would be a cause of ridicule or

derision if one wanted to tape it and put it on youtube. They are

sacred but they are not secret.

Gail

Those that are so inclined can find reason to mock and deride almost any religious practice. The temple ordinances are highly symbolic and symbolism is easily misrepresented. Misrepresentation is a common amongst anti-Mormon individuals and groups.

Edited May 11, 2013 by ERayR