Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, webbles said: I was quoting the evidence of your original article. You are now referencing different articles that have a completely different method of calculating deaths. So, the two are actually not related. This sounds very much like playing whack-a-mole. I can show you why the statistics in one article is wrong and you'll just bring up a different article. I can go through the trouble of disproving that one and you'll just find a different thing. I'd strongly recommend that you actually go through the statistics. Do not believe headlines. For this specific situation, it is just a video. He doesn't link to any source. He just talks and shows. How about you go through the video and actually find all the sources that he is referencing? Then we can discuss whether he is right or not. Again incorrect. If you go to the link in the first article, it gives you a link to this source: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-e07 Sorry you have to click twice, but that's how research is usually done. 1
CV75 Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Obeone said: 1 Kings 13: 8-30 Lesson: If you follow the Prophet INSTEAD of the Spirit, you will die. Why? 2 reasons: Prophets make mistakes, the Spirit does not, and More importantly, the Spirit outranks the Prophet, and if you reject the greater authority of God you will die. This is the lesson God is teaching us with the "safe and effective" statement from the First Presidency recently. Those who follow this advice from the Prophet are unknowingly killing themselves. There are three parts to this dynamic: the Prophet, the Spirit, and the person making the choice. They need to be in agreement for the person to experience better/greater happiness in life, even they die, which we all do, eventually. I think that enthusiasts and fanatics on either side of the vaccine/mask debate are missing something fundamental in the areas where their relationship with the Prophet and the Church (socially), with the Spirit (spiritually), and with themselves (mentally) converge.
webbles Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Obeone said: Again incorrect. If you go to the link in the first article, it gives you a link to this source: https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/estimating-vaccine-induced-mortality-e07 Sorry you have to click twice, but that's how research is usually done. Are you not reading what I wrote? I actually linked to that source. And I linked to the part 1. And I discussed the actual statistics. Please re-read what I wrote.
Calm Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 On a side note, frogs will likely be dead long before they hit boiling water temps. How do I know? Because I have killed five cute little frogs by slowly raising the temperature in an aquarium and the water was probably just bathtub warm (the thermostat broke on my aquarium heater one night and I came down the next morning to a tank full of the fastest moving tropical pet fish I have ever seen—they looked like someone had dumped a load of amphetamines into the tank—and five bloated bodies floating on the surface belly up). “But wait, Calm,” you say, “haven’t you just proven that frogs won’t jump out of a pot with slowly heated water.” And I respond, “Yes, indeed, I have proven frogs will stay put in a pot of slowly heated water….as long as it has a lid.” We had the aquarium covered to prevent the frogs from getting out. Turned me completely off keeping frogs and they were my favorites…except for the hassle of grinding up raw chicken liver for their food, which then made a mess in the water. Thank goodness for water filters. But they were in ecstasy at mealtime, so it was worth it. RIP, good little buddies. 3
CV75 Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: I’m not talking about following the spirit. I mean people who go down these conspiracy rabbit holes. I cannot relate. I'm talking about the book (see the link); the comment about the Spirit is secondary but I want to tie the book in with the OP as a source for understanding "rabbit holes".
jkwilliams Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Also: See, now that is a solid meme.
Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: That’s a great business model for the pharmaceutical industry: slowly kill off your customer base. Pharma gets gain intermittently while people are made sick and stay sick. But the ultimate goal is depopulation. Even the Book of Mormon says it: Quote Ether 8 : 24 - 25 24 Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you; or wo be unto it, because of the blood of them who have been slain; for they cry from the dust for vengeance upon it, and also upon those who built it up. 25 For it cometh to pass that whoso buildeth it up seeketh to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries; and it bringeth to pass the destruction of all people, for it is built up by the devil, who is the father of all lies; even that same liar who beguiled our first parents, yea, even that same liar who hath caused man to commit murder from the beginning; who hath hardened the hearts of men that they have murdered the prophets, and stoned them, and cast them out from the beginning. Edited August 28, 2022 by Obeone -2
Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: I’m not talking about following the spirit. I mean people who go down these conspiracy rabbit holes. I cannot relate. The Book of Mormon can.
jkwilliams Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Obeone said: The Book of Mormon can. You’re barking up the wrong tree with me.
Tacenda Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Obeone said: See ALL-CAUSE MORTALITY data: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Rdbve8DL0VNa/ also this: https://www.bitchute.com/video/9XSzTilNuohh/ also this TUCKER CARLSON: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RlqSuatnYN9r/ That's one dude that is messed up to the gills, I wish you good luck, seriously.
Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 There was an unexpected 40% increase in 'all cause deaths' in 2021 -3
CV75 Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, Obeone said: There was an unexpected 40% increase in 'all cause deaths' in 2021 How does this tie in with following the Prophet and/or the Spirit and/or your personal psycho-social makeup?
Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, CV75 said: How does this tie in with following the Prophet and/or the Spirit and/or your personal psycho-social makeup? Simple: the Prophet said injections were "safe and effective." They turned out to be the opposite of that. Hence the need to follow the Spirit more than the Prophet, a vital lesson taught in the scriptures, a lesson that the Church needs yet to learn. Edited August 28, 2022 by Obeone
JLHPROF Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Obeone said: Simple: the Prophet said injections were "safe and effective." They turned out to be the opposite of that. Hence the need to follow the Spirit more than the Prophet, a vital lesson taught in the scriptures, a lesson that the Church needs yet to learn. You're assuming your spiritual understanding and impressions are correct, infallible. "I am fearful every time that a man or woman comes to me and relates great visions, saying, “I have had a vision, an angel came and told me thus and so; the visions of eternity were opened, and I saw thus and so; I saw my destiny; I saw what the brethren would do with me; I foresaw this and that.” Look out for that man or woman going to the devil. I ask, is there a reason for men and women being exposed more constantly and more powerfully, to the power of the enemy, by having visions than by not having them? There is and it is simply this—God never bestows upon His people, or upon an individual, superior blessings without as severe trial to prove them, to prove that individual, or that people, to see whether they will keep their covenants with Him, and keep in remembrance what He has shown them." - Brigham Young 1
Obeone Posted August 28, 2022 Author Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: You're assuming your spiritual understanding and impressions are correct, infallible. "I am fearful every time that a man or woman comes to me and relates great visions, saying, “I have had a vision, an angel came and told me thus and so; the visions of eternity were opened, and I saw thus and so; I saw my destiny; I saw what the brethren would do with me; I foresaw this and that.” Look out for that man or woman going to the devil. I ask, is there a reason for men and women being exposed more constantly and more powerfully, to the power of the enemy, by having visions than by not having them? There is and it is simply this—God never bestows upon His people, or upon an individual, superior blessings without as severe trial to prove them, to prove that individual, or that people, to see whether they will keep their covenants with Him, and keep in remembrance what He has shown them." - Brigham Young We were warned of this time, when no one will be able to survive on borrowed light. How else could God test us, except by allowing the Prophet to give us bad advice? -3
CV75 Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 30 minutes ago, Obeone said: Simple: the Prophet said injections were "safe and effective." They turned out to be the opposite of that. Hence the need to follow the Spirit more than the Prophet, a vital lesson taught in the scriptures, a lesson that the Church needs yet to learn. That is not what I am asking. How does the doctor draw such a conclusion?
Popular Post Benjamin McGuire Posted August 28, 2022 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Obeone said: There was an unexpected 40% increase in 'all cause deaths' in 2021 They certainly weren't caused by the vaccine. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-01-18/how-the-pandemic-ripped-a-hole-in-working-age-america Quote Deaths among working-age Americans were up more than 40% over the pre-pandemic norm last summer and fall, the chief executive officer of an Indiana-based insurance company said late last month. His assertion has been reverberating around social media since, inspiring a much-shared Twitter thread that attributed it to vaccine side-effects until its author (to his credit) realized he’d misunderstood the data and deleted the whole thing, and a much-mocked tweet by Republican U.S. Rep. Jim Banks that “This is a catastrophe and we need to figure out why it’s happening.” What’s happening is, mainly, a pandemic — the toll of which is not being fully reflected in Covid-19 death numbers, as OneAmerica Financial Partners CEO J. Scott Davison explained in a Dec. 30 video news conference (it’s all on YouTube) organized by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce. “The pandemic-related deaths are much larger than what you’re seeing in the news as the official specific Covid deaths, where Covid was the proximate cause of death on the death certificate,” said Davison, who has been observing the phenomenon through the lens of his company’s life insurance business. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-excess-mortality/fact-check-no-evidence-that-people-aged-25-44-experienced-an-84-increase-in-excess-mortality-due-to-covid-vaccine-rollout-idUSL2N2VS1BI Quote “There is no way to attribute the increase to vaccination or any single specific cause,” NCHS said. “That said, the large increase in COVID deaths (and total deaths) for the latter part of 2021 does coincide with the Delta and Omicron waves.” I'll put that into something you might understand: the excess deaths occurred in a time frame consistent with waves of COVID, not with waves of vaccinations. Here is another: https://www.rmit.edu.au/news/factlab-meta/millennial-deaths-and-vaccine?fbclid=IwAR0D4JtZL6Ky1lT43x7gGuFObPJorHBMsbf6qJf2B6m_QWSE1cUp-uZtkqA I work in health care. In my field, vaccinations (and keeping them up to date) is pretty much mandatory. Of the several hundred people that I have worked with and worked for over the past three years, none have died from an unexplained cause that could be linked to the vaccination. I know a few that did die from COVID related causes. Before the vaccinations occurred, the COVID death rate in the population that I work for was just under 40%. After vaccinations (and with Paxlovid), we haven't had a single death in this population that is linked to a COVID infection. So, you will have to pardon my view that you have jumped off the cliff ... Edited August 28, 2022 by Benjamin McGuire 6
JLHPROF Posted August 28, 2022 Posted August 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Obeone said: We were warned of this time, when no one will be able to survive on borrowed light. How else could God test us, except by allowing the Prophet to give us bad advice? Did it ever occur to you that the test might be to see if you'll obey even when you disagree? Ephraim Hank's beard or Isaac Barlow's buggy whip spring to mind. 2
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