Update on Story Re: Missing Kids (Daybell)

[Tacenda]

5 minutes ago, bluebell said:

And Daybell's lawyers know how insane Lori sounds.  I looks like they have a lot more of Lori saying crazy stuff than they do of Chad.  I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to separate the trials so that they could pretend it was all Lori.  Chad doesn't deserve to get off that easily.  They were partners in this, they can do down together.

Yep, yep and yep!

[Calm]

Trial date set is April 3, 2023.  I really hope it happens then and is not delayed again.

https://www.facebook.com/100044424966565/posts/pfbid09n6GLADyiRXNWWzdpANkfdJUTJfW7QdYZ23T1Ef5ziKCoKQkgfvRkU3ptU5uXa7hl/

Edited December 9, 2022 by Calm

[Calm]

So apparently according to FB, LVD’s attorneys have a motion to have her death penalty excluded as there is no evidence she colluded in the 3 deaths or evidence she has a wanton disregard of life on record…

I wonder if the “on record” was included so the prosecution couldn’t bring up the pool party she had on the day her brother killed her husband. 
 

Referred to here but not in detail.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2022/12/daybells-appear-in-court-together-for-the-first-time-trial-date-set/

Trial is delayed till April.  The prosecution barely turned over some discovery items.  I am beginning to wonder if they have their act in gear.

 

[Calm]

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/prosecutors-lori-vallow-daybell-intended-for-her-children-to-die-and-participated-in-their-killings/

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/documents-lori-daybell-reveals-more-on-childrens-deaths-and-wants-to-meet-with-chad-daybell/

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/lori-vallow-daybell-will-not-use-her-mental-health-as-a-defense-during-murder-trial-attorney-say/

[Kenngo1969]

Lori Vallow's attorneys have filed a motion to have her case dismissed for [allegedly] violating her right to a speedy trial.  https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2023/1/26/23573356/lori-vallow-asks-for-case-to-be-dismissed.  How long did her trip to Crazytown last?  I'm no expert, but I don't think you get to delay your own trial by taking a detour to Crazytown and then turn around and claim that the prosecution is violating your right to a speedy trial.  Just sayin'!  

[Calm]

14 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said:

Lori Vallow's attorneys have filed a motion to have her case dismissed for [allegedly] violating her right to a speedy trial.  https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2023/1/26/23573356/lori-vallow-asks-for-case-to-be-dismissed.  How long did her trip to Crazytown last?  I'm no expert, but I don't think you get to delay your own trial by taking a detour to Crazytown and then turn around and claim that the prosecution is violating your right to a speedy trial.  Just sayin'!  

My guess is they are trying hard to get the cases severed because Pryor wants more time (he may have good reason to going through all the documents of texts and stuff from a couple of years, I believe) and her attorneys want less.   It seems pretty clear as is they want to dump it all on the brother, but that isn’t enough really given it appears he was her attendant, not the other way around.  It would be much nicer for her if she could blame it on her husband as well.  It is almost believable that both her brother and husband assuring her the kids were okay convinced her, but given she was apparently the mastermind behind the misdeeds that surrounded her custody hearings with her third husband, I just don’t buy it.

Edited January 27 by Calm

[Kenngo1969]

On 12/9/2022 at 6:50 AM, Calm said:

Trial date set is April 3, 2023.  I really hope it happens then and is not delayed again.

https://www.facebook.com/100044424966565/posts/pfbid09n6GLADyiRXNWWzdpANkfdJUTJfW7QdYZ23T1Ef5ziKCoKQkgfvRkU3ptU5uXa7hl/

Maybe Lori will take another detour to Crazytown?   (I hope no one is offended by my mention of this locale, which is perfectly charming and delightful in every way: I know; I live here.)    As Napoleon XIV sang so well, "Life is beautiful all the time" here.  

Edited January 27 by Kenngo1969

[Kenngo1969]

Obviously, there is a limit (in theory, and, hopefully, in practice, but who really knows? ) to how much defense attorneys representing separate clients who have been charged with crimes arising from the same criminal episode can collaborate: "I represent my client, counselor!  It is his [or her] interests that are paramount to me!  You want to collaborate with me?  Well, you can go pound sand!"  (Or perhaps, "I will advise my client of your wish to collaborate and get back to you, but ... don't hold your breath.")

The former, as I understand it, according to the rules (though, of course, I welcome enlightenment from someone who is more erudite than I, legally speaking) is what should happen, at least when any collaboration would prejudice either clients rights, but ... Does it?   And whether any collaboration would prejudice either client's rights is not always cut and dried.

 

Edited January 27 by Kenngo1969

[Calm]

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/02/judge-hears-several-motions-as-trial-for-chad-and-lori-daybell-approaches/

[Kenngo1969]

And, as it turns out, I was right about something (who knew?  ): You don't get to take a detour to Crazytown (remember, I live here: I love the place!  ) and then turn around and claim that the prosecution is violating your rights by denying you a speedy trial!

[Tacenda]

On 1/18/2023 at 12:55 AM, Calm said:

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/prosecutors-lori-vallow-daybell-intended-for-her-children-to-die-and-participated-in-their-killings/

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/documents-lori-daybell-reveals-more-on-childrens-deaths-and-wants-to-meet-with-chad-daybell/

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/01/lori-vallow-daybell-will-not-use-her-mental-health-as-a-defense-during-murder-trial-attorney-say/

Crime stories like this upset me, why don't these idiots just divorce their spouses and then marry each other? Oh forgot, they're greedy pigs and want life insurance.

[Calm]

Hearing today on some DNA evidence, only problem was the prosecution just got it today and the defense hasn’t seen it, so judge did a continuance and they will be back on Thursday.  Reporters were kicked out during discussion because it deals with evidence.

[Calm]

Unfortunately they have decided to sever the trials.  Bet they are delighted because now they can more easily blame it all on the other and Alex Cox, who is dead and can’t talk back.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/03/two-trials-will-now-be-held-in-chad-and-lori-daybell-case/

“The separation comes as a result of new DNA testing, which was just given to all parties involved in the criminal case. Since the results came back so close to the April 3 trial date, the defense attorneys for both Chad and Lori felt there was too little time for additional testing to be done on the sample. 

Boyce stated that because the evidence was not given to the defense by the state in a timely manner, and Lori has refused to waive her right to a speedy trial, he felt there was no option but to sever the cases.”

Edited March 2 by Calm

[Calm]

For some reason I can’t add a quote. There was hair found at the burial site.  It is apparently very significant, but Vallow won’t wave her speedy trial after all her delay because of her being bonkers, so hers is going ahead though it sounds like it’s against her lawyer’s advice. 

[Calm]

Death penalty against Lori Vallow is removed due to discovery violations, I believe (just read the court reporter’s summary).  Not intended to penalize the state, just to ensure a fair trial.  Not sure why it would make a difference, need to do more reading.  But I prefer it that way.  Not a fan of the death penalty as very, very costly and drags out the cases for maybe even decades for victims as they keep having to go back to court with appeals and such.  I think being able to move on is easier without the death penalty, even if there is fear for some the predator could get out and go after victims, etc.  The Lafferty case was quite persuasive in that regard as they had one brother accept life imprisonment and the other fight death penalty until he died many years later of natural causes.  The one of the victim’s family members in that case became very strongly anti death penalty because of how intrusive it was in their lives for all those years.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/03/judge-removes-death-penalty-addresses-evidence-motions-in-lori-daybell-murder-case/

[Tacenda]

23 minutes ago, Calm said:

Death penalty against Lori Vallow is removed due to discovery violations, I believe (just read the court reporter’s summary).  Not intended to penalize the state, just to ensure a fair trial.  Not sure why it would make a difference, need to do more reading.  But I prefer it that way.  Not a fan of the death penalty as very, very costly and drags out the cases for maybe even decades for victims as they keep having to go back to court with appeals and such.  I think being able to move on is easier without the death penalty, even if there is fear for some the predator could get out and go after victims, etc.  The Lafferty case was quite persuasive in that regard as they had one brother accept life imprisonment and the other fight death penalty until he died many years later of natural causes.  The one of the victim’s family members in that case became very strongly anti death penalty because of how intrusive it was in their lives for all those years.

https://www.eastidahonews.com/2023/03/judge-removes-death-penalty-addresses-evidence-motions-in-lori-daybell-murder-case/

I wish the Lafferty brother, I think Dan, had died or got the death penalty. He is the reason my niece on my husband's side's husband lost his brother, wife and children to a suicide. Dan talked the wife into ending it and moving on to the next life or that the apocalypse was coming, don't have all the exact details. But it was reported in the news somewhere. 

[Calm]

2 hours ago, Tacenda said:

I wish the Lafferty brother, I think Dan, had died or got the death penalty. He is the reason my niece on my husband's side's husband lost his brother, wife and children to a suicide. Dan talked the wife into ending it and moving on to the next life or that the apocalypse was coming, don't have all the exact details. But it was reported in the news somewhere. 

I had forgotten about that.  There should be more supervision, restricted contact in regards to developing followers, fans, lovers.  Any prisoner getting that kind of twisted attention for their crimes should get the privilege withdraw, imo.