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Having just arrived back in the USA after an 8 month absence (and I'll only be here for 3 weeks), I am +8 hours out of sync in the timezone sense. So, I was up already at 3 AM on a Saturday.  And General Conference starts today!  Yay!

So what cats will be let out of the bag today and tomorrow? The first cat (just a kitten, actually) is the renaming of the official choir of the Church.  

I am reminded of the Brigham Young quote that @Bernard Gui once used in his signature:

"I will now say, not only to our delegate to Congress, but to the Elders who leave the body of the Church, that he thought that all the cats and kittens were let out of the bag when brother Pratt went back last fall, and published the Revelation concerning the plurality of wives: it was thought there was no other cat to let out. But allow me to tell you, Elders of Israel, and delegates to Congress, you may expect an eternity of cats, that have not yet escaped from the bag. Bless your souls, there is no end to them, for if there is not one thing, there will always be another.

"Do you suppose that this people will ever see the day that they will rest in perfect security, in hopes of becoming like another people, nation, state, kingdom, or society? They never will. Christ and Satan never can be friends. Light and darkness will always remain opposites. The kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan will always remain two kingdoms; and so long as they are, you will find from time to time that the citizens of Satan's kingdom will be telling you of cats that are ready to leap out of the bag, of something that is wonderful and alarming in its nature....

"And let me tell you the Devil has put the whole world on the watch against us. It is impossible for us to make the least move without exciting, if not all the world, at least a considerable portion of it. They are excited at what we do, and, strange to relate, they are no less excited at what we do not do.

"You will find that there will be cats and kittens leaping out of the bag continually. "What can come next, I wonder!" I do not know; but this I know, the Lord Almighty will not suffer the Saints, neither the world, to slumber upon their oars. The time is past for them to fold their hands, and say, "Yet a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands." This people will never see that day, for the Lord will keep them on the alert all the time; they will continually have something to contend with to keep them from dropping to sleep, and it is no matter to me as to what means He may use to do it."  - JD 1:188-9, Brigham Young, June 19, 1853

And I guess I am also looking forward to the grumbling from those marginal members of the church who don't really believe that this church is led by revelation / inspiration from God.  

 

 

 

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Too few kittens in the last hundred years- let's hope it will be raining cats and maybe even a few dogs. 😉 

 Thanks to you and Bernard for  the quote.  That's a great one

 

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Many years ago, the Datsun car company ( now known as Nissan ) shipped a cargo plane full of engine gears and other metal parts from its factory in Japan to the US for its dealers. During the flight the plane experienced severe turbulence and some of the crates broke open. Upon landing ,they opened the cargo doors and many of the parts fell out onto the runway. One wit remarked , " Hey look ! , it's raining Datsun cogs ." :snort:

 

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4 hours ago, strappinglad said:

Many years ago, the Datsun car company ( now known as Nissan ) shipped a cargo plane full of engine gears and other metal parts from its factory in Japan to the US for its dealers. During the flight the plane experienced severe turbulence and some of the crates broke open. Upon landing ,they opened the cargo doors and many of the parts fell out onto the runway. One wit remarked , " Hey look ! , it's raining Datsun cogs ." :snort:

 

Ouch!

Great pun

You know a great pun is by how much physical pain it causes. ;)

One close relative afflicted with type one diabetes lost her toes to the disease, and was embarrassed taking her shoes off in family gatherings.

I told her not to worry, because we were not lack-toes intolerant 

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Cats and Bags huh......oh..I am sorry...I thought this was  Halloween thread!  So Boo!

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On 10/6/2018 at 4:41 PM, Jeanne said:

Cats and Bags huh......oh..I am sorry...I thought this was  Halloween thread!  So Boo!

🤣

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5 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

I'm curious what "Cat out of the Bag" revelation the church would realistically publish in the near future that would cause an uproar among members (both for and against whatever revelations)?

If you read through some of the posts by the critic chorus regarding the renewed emphasis on the Church's correct name, it is quite evident that this emphasis brings them to uproar.

Of course, they moan and complain about practically everything, so it's a little hard to distinguish anguish and uproar over the name emphasis from the normal background of discontent.

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5 hours ago, Stargazer said:

If you read through some of the posts by the critic chorus regarding the renewed emphasis on the Church's correct name, it is quite evident that this emphasis brings them to uproar.

Of course, they moan and complain about practically everything, so it's a little hard to distinguish anguish and uproar over the name emphasis from the normal background of discontent.

Makes me more determined to follow the Lord's counsel

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6 hours ago, Stargazer said:

If you read through some of the posts by the critic chorus regarding the renewed emphasis on the Church's correct name, it is quite evident that this emphasis brings them to uproar.

Of course, they moan and complain about practically everything, so it's a little hard to distinguish anguish and uproar over the name emphasis from the normal background of discontent.

I was just thinking about that actually. With the amount of critical chorus that has sprung up with various changes, like the name emphasis, I’m starting to resize why the Apostles are hestitant (I imagine, I suppose I don’t know) in giving us more. I even see people complaining about how one of the talks given in conference this last week was “inappropriate” (don’t remember the GA) when he talked about Malaria and how they were coughing “blood and mucus.” It’s amazing how much backlash the prophets get for little things like that, though I know there are a lot of members excited for it!!

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7 minutes ago, SettingDogStar said:

I was just thinking about that actually. With the amount of critical chorus that has sprung up with various changes, like the name emphasis, I’m starting to resize why the Apostles are hestitant (I imagine, I suppose I don’t know) in giving us more. I even see people complaining about how one of the talks given in conference this last week was “inappropriate” (don’t remember the GA) when he talked about Malaria and how they were coughing “blood and mucus.” It’s amazing how much backlash the prophets get for little things like that, though I know there are a lot of members excited for it!!

That was Elder Gays talk. He was sharing a tender experience by Elder Talmage. I saw nothing in appropriate about it.

but I think you are right. Look at how riled up we are when the Lord asks us to use the name of the Church and remember to take His name upon us. And we expect greater things when we balk at the small ones?

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3 hours ago, Avatar4321 said:

That was Elder Gays talk. He was sharing a tender experience by Elder Talmage. I saw nothing in appropriate about it.

but I think you are right. Look at how riled up we are when the Lord asks us to use the name of the Church and remember to take His name upon us. And we expect greater things when we balk at the small ones?

I think we sometimes forget (me included) that even if it’s not predicated by “thus saith the Lord” or something like that doesn’t make it any less relevant. Perhaps there is a revelation that he received that DOES start that way, but it was a sacred experience and he wants to just pass the message along. I hope we can keep adding to the D&C more in the future, but I imagine if we added EVERY revelation ever received we’d be carrying little red wagons with all the sections 😂

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