kiwi57 Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 19 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: would you be the first to condemn Israel for there Worship ? Said he, with no sense of irony at all. I leave the condemnation to EV Protestants who, among other things, condemn the Latter-day Saints for worshipping in Temples. Now that you mention it, so did ancient Israel. 19 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: Psalm 150 1 Praise the Lord! Praise God in His sanctuary; Praise Him in His mighty firmament! 2 Praise Him for His mighty acts; Praise Him according to His excellent greatness! 3 Praise Him with the sound of the trumpet; Praise Him with the lute and harp! 4 Praise Him with the timbrel and dance; Praise Him with stringed instruments and flutes! 5 Praise Him with loud cymbals; Praise Him with clashing cymbals! 6 Let everything that has breath praise the Lord. Praise the Lord! Psalm 150, like almost all of the psalms, was part of temple liturgy. The temple musicians were priests. They weren't bringing profane instruments into the temple sanctuary, they were using instruments that were developed for, and dedicated to, temple worship. Different psalms were sung at particular times and in connection with particular events. You can imagine that the holy places of ancient Israel were filled with the same kind of unholy din that characterises modern rock concerts if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't seem likely to me. Sorry. 2
kiwi57 Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: The Church in Australia Is it? Incidentally, your headlines are somewhat misleading. Do you say "The Church" because you think it's the only church in Australia? Or because you think it's the church under discussion, namely The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Which all but the most stubborn deniers admit to be a Christian body? 2
Josh Khinder Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 4 hours ago, pogi said: I don't see the part that says, "Praise Him for filthy lucre!" 4 hours ago, pogi said:
kiwi57 Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 3 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: <Snip stolen information> Not a whole lot, is it? But tell us, Josh: did you want everyone to know what a spiteful voyeur you are, or did you not realise just how obvious you were making it? 4
Josh Khinder Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 13 hours ago, kiwi57 said: Not a whole lot, is it? But tell us, Josh: did you want everyone to know what a spiteful voyeur you are, or did you not realise just how obvious you were making it? Just love quoting The Book of Mormon why is that being a voyeur ?
Josh Khinder Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, kiwi57 said: Is it? Incidentally, your headlines are somewhat misleading. Do you say "The Church" because you think it's the only church in Australia? Or because you think it's the church under discussion, namely The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? Which all but the most stubborn deniers admit to be a Christian body? Hillsong is the most famous Church in Australia and local Churches here in America usually sing there Worship music including the Church I go too. Edited December 27, 2017 by Josh Khinder
Jane_Doe Posted December 27, 2017 Posted December 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: Hillsong is the most famous Church in Australia and local Churches here in America usually sing there Worship music including the Church I go too. Would your worship be as good if the instruments in that band broke? Or is the musicians had poor musical skills? 2
sheilauk Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 4 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: Hillsong is the most famous Church in Australia and local Churches here in America usually sing there Worship music including the Church I go too Really? Hillsong is THE most famous church? When 22.6% are Catholic and 13.3% are Anglican (in the 2016 census)? Just 1.1% were Pentacostal. So don't you really mean it's the most famous Pentacostal church in Australia? 3
Josh Khinder Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, sheilauk said: Really? Hillsong is THE most famous church? When 22.6% are Catholic and 13.3% are Anglican (in the 2016 census)? Just 1.1% were Pentacostal. So don't you really mean it's the most famous Pentacostal church in Australia? I said famous not the biggest since most evangelical churches use there music, name one other Church in Australia that Churches use there Worship Songs ? Edited December 28, 2017 by Josh Khinder
Jane_Doe Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Josh Khinder said: I said famous not the biggest since most evangelical churches use there music, name one other Church in Australia that Churches use there Worship Songs ? So... you're bragging that your church has a famous band? 2
Josh Khinder Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jane_Doe said: So... you're bragging that your church has a famous band? I live in America so the Worship team isn't ours
sheilauk Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 7 minutes ago, Josh Khinder said: I said famous not the biggest since most evangelical churches use there music, name one other Church in Australia that Churches use there Worship Songs ? So the Roman Catholic church is less famous than Hillsong? When the RCC has more members and a longer history? Even if all the evangelical churches used their music, it wouldn't make it more famous than for example the traditional carols used in far more churches and venues. I would accept Hillsong may be more famous than the LDS. Is there, however, a poll that shows Hillsong is the most famous church of all the churches? 2
Hestia Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 How are the last few posts on topic? Someone convince me the thread shouldn't be locked.
Jane_Doe Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Josh Khinder said: I live in America so the Worship team isn't ours Ok, so you're bragging about someone else's band? ... And what's the point of this? Edited December 28, 2017 by Jane_Doe
Popular Post sheilauk Posted December 28, 2017 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2017 Regards the topic, I found it interesting how confidence building the Church was for these workers. In my purely personal experience, I've found the Church to be more empowering for women than many other churches and organisations I've been a member of and I know several women who have said how the Church helped them grow in confidence and self belief. 5
rongo Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Hestia said: How are the last few posts on topic? Someone convince me the thread shouldn't be locked. How about you just thread ban the offending poster? Seems simple enough without locking the thread. 3
Storm Rider Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 3:45 PM, JAHS said: I believe LDS services have always been conducted on Friday in Muslim countries and Saturday in Israel complying with local religious traditions. JAHS, I don't know if it has always been the case, but for the several years I live in Qatar and the UAE the Sabbath was always on Friday.
Popular Post kiwi57 Posted December 28, 2017 Popular Post Posted December 28, 2017 12 hours ago, Josh Khinder said: Just love quoting The Book of Mormon why is that being a voyeur ? You weren't quoting the Book of Mormon in the post to which I referred. You scanned the private financial information of someone many of us admire rather a lot. Someone who justly is compensated because he has served the Lord full time after giving up his career at rather short notice. Your posting of his stolen private information looks rather voyeuristic to me. 6
Josh Khinder Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 6 hours ago, kiwi57 said: You weren't quoting the Book of Mormon in the post to which I referred. You scanned the private financial information of someone many of us admire rather a lot. Someone who justly is compensated because he has served the Lord full time after giving up his career at rather short notice. Your posting of his stolen private information looks rather voyeuristic to me. Don't Mormons teach there leaders aren't compensated for there work ?
Jane_Doe Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Josh Khinder said: Don't Mormons teach there leaders aren't compensated for there work ? That is referring to local leaders (>99%), not a person who can't hold a day job because he's constantly being shipped around to 6 different continents. But you knew that already. 3
Hestia Posted December 28, 2017 Posted December 28, 2017 11 hours ago, rongo said: How about you just thread ban the offending poster? Seems simple enough without locking the thread. There was more than one poster off topic and I try not to ban whole groups of people if I can help it. It's tiring. But I see that Josh Khinder is instigating it at this point so he's been thread banned. There is no reason for anyone to continue to respond to him.
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