jkwilliams Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, smac97 said: Most investment gurus do that to me. Thanks, -Smac Same here. Incidentally, I find I can't give reputation points, for some reason. Maybe a reputation point from me would taint a poster. 1
ksfisher Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 On 9/12/2017 at 11:11 AM, smac97 said: A) very devoted members of the LDS Church, or B) very devoted critics of the LDS Church. Mr. Koerber seems to fall into the first category. I will leave it to the courts to determine Mr. Koerber's guilt or innocence on that score. For now, I am presuming he is innocent. That still leaves the weirdness of a Mormon funding a movie about Joseph Smith by funding a separate movie featuring gore, sex, profanity, etc. Which calls into question your point A. I have observed that there are those who are very fervant in their devotion to the church but not so observant when it comes to following the precepts taught by the church. I'm not meaning this as any sort of judgement as we all have behaviors which are incongruous with disciple of Christ and all need to learn to be better followers of the Savior. But the dichotomy between the two movie projects is weird.
Kenngo1969 Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, smac97 said: By the way, Koerber's guilt is not a foregoing conclusion. There have been many, many mistakes and misconduct by the prosecutors that precipitated the tossing of the first case against him in 2014. Indeed. I'm one of the more pro-police, pro-prosecution people you will ever run across in Cyber space, and even I have absolutely no problem with defense attorneys zealously representing his interests and protecting his rights. May the side which makes the best case win. https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2014/08/31/reflections-on-the-dismissal-of-charges-against-rick-koerber/ https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2014/10/17/defense-ethics-the-judge/ https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2013/03/25/the-ethics-of-zealous-defense/ https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2013/07/31/ethics-of-zealous-defense-ii/
Danzo Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: My uncle was taken in by an investment scheme fronted by a General Authority back in the Seventies. They wouldn't "allow" you to invest if you didn't have a current temple recommend. Just recently, an prominent church leader in these parts was indicted for tax evasion it was a rather convoluted scheme to avoid paying taxes. At first I was puzzled about why he would get involved in such a thing. Then I read the indictment, It mentioned that he was following a plan promoted by a guy from Provo. All I could think was SUCKER!!.
jkwilliams Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Danzo said: Just recently, an prominent church leader in these parts was indicted for tax evasion it was a rather convoluted scheme to avoid paying taxes. At first I was puzzled about why he would get involved in such a thing. Then I read the indictment, It mentioned that he was following a plan promoted by a guy from Provo. All I could think was SUCKER!!. My dad taught us never to do business with friends or family, and especially not with someone who uses their religion (Mormon or otherwise) as part of their sales pitch. 1
Kenngo1969 Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: I can't remember which General Authority said it, but one once said (paraphrasing), "If someone tells you to pray about an investment, make sure you have your hand on your wallet while your eyes are closed." Honestly, I have more respect for street thugs than I do for so called "white-collar" criminals who engage in affinity fraud. I don't have to guess about the intentions or about the true colors of the former, while the latter carefully craft a facade to hide those attributes. 30 minutes ago, jkwilliams said: My uncle was taken in by an investment scheme fronted by a General Authority back in the Seventies. They wouldn't "allow" you to invest if you didn't have a current temple recommend. I'm an equal-opportunity critic when it comes to being two-faced, and I don't exempt my coreligionists. If anything, they're in for even harsher criticism from me, because if anyone should know better and should do better, they should. I'm not trying to excuse his role in it in any way, but I do have to wonder what the General Authority knew and when he knew it. I wonder if he might have been taken in, too.
jkwilliams Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: I'm an equal-opportunity critic when it comes to being two-faced, and I don't exempt my coreligionists. If anything, they're in for even harsher criticism from me, because if anyone should know better and should do better, they should. I'm not trying to excuse his role in it in any way, but I do have to wonder what the General Authority knew and when he knew it. I wonder if he might have been taken in, too. Depends on who you talk to. My uncle was convinced it was one of those situations where they bring in a well-known person, who gets a huge return on his investment and then enthusiastically recruits others. My dad, on the other hand, thinks the GA was a "scoundrel," in his words. Either way, the man in question is dead and probably would only be known to people my age and older. My dad says that, even if he had wanted to invest, it was a good thing he didn't have a temple recommend.
Calm Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, jkwilliams said: Same here. Incidentally, I find I can't give reputation points, for some reason. Maybe a reputation point from me would taint a poster. You might be maxed out. It doesn't give an alert any more.
jkwilliams Posted September 13, 2017 Posted September 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, Calm said: You might be maxed out. It doesn't give an alert any more. I think I've only given maybe 3 or 4 rep points.
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