Popular Post The Nehor Posted January 20, 2017 Popular Post Posted January 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, ERayR said: If that 2.8 million jumped over a cliff would you follow them? 8
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Buckeye said: Yet there's only one judge. God can take care of himself.
snowflake Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 15 hours ago, MiserereNobis said: Jeffress leads a 12,000-member megachurch in Dallas and is a frequent guest on Fox News. But to many Americans, he may be best known for his frequent condemnations of Mormonism as a "cult" during the 2012 presidential campaign. He urged Christians not to vote for Mitt Romney, a Mormon, during the Republican primary. He later supported Romney over President Barack Obama. Jeffress has also called Islam and Mormonism heresies "from the pit of hell," suggested that the Catholic church was led astray by Satan, accused Obama of "paving the way" for the Antichrist and spread false statistics about the prevalence of HIV among gays, who he said live a "miserable" and "filthy" lifestyle. In recent years, Jeffress has frequently denounced Islam, calling it an "evil religion" that "promotes pedophilia" because the Prophet Muhammed married a 9-year-old girl. (Many modern Muslim scholars disagree about her age.) The pastor has also said that Mormons, Muslims and Hindus "worship a false god." Most bible believing Christians would say that he is quite accurate in his critique.....no matter how offensive.
Buckeye Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Love XKCD. I actually used this question at the dinner table with my kids last week. By the end of the discussion, all but one of my kids had changed their minds to say they would follow their friends. We decided that most of the time, peer pressure is actually a really good thing. That's why it's so important to choose good peers. 1
snowflake Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 10 hours ago, Teancum said: He's also anti-Catholic, so we're all in good company I thought that the BOM and the brethren had agreed that the Catholic church was the Church of Satan....no?
Buckeye Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, snowflake said: Most bible believing Christians would say that he is quite accurate in his critique.....no matter how offensive. Um, I think Catholics are the largest group of "bible believing Christians." 4
Buckeye Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 Just now, snowflake said: I thought that the BOM and the brethren had agreed that the Catholic church was the Church of Satan....no? That's just the McConkities. Most members have let go of that awful idea. Thankfully, most members in my area never heard it. 3
Scott Lloyd Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 28 minutes ago, Buckeye said: In all seriousness, though, I'm confident that President Trump paid next to no attention to either Jeffress or the Choir. I beg to differ. While the choir was singing, I saw on TV him mouthing the word "America" as the choir sang it. He seemed visibly moved to me. YMMV.
cdowis Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buckeye said: In all seriousness, though, I'm confident that President Trump paid next to no attention to either Jeffress or the Choir. Edited January 20, 2017 by cdowis 1
Gray Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, snowflake said: Most bible believing Christians would say that he is quite accurate in his critique.....no matter how offensive. No one who takes the Bible seriously would say it. 2
Scott Lloyd Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, snowflake said: I thought that the BOM and the brethren had agreed that the Catholic church was the Church of Satan....no? This is a damnable lie. 4
Buckeye Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: I beg to differ. While the choir was singing, I saw on TV him mouthing the word "America" as the choir sang it. He seemed visibly moved to me. YMMV. We'll have to differ, then. I watched the same clip live. He seemed nervous and distracted to me, not really paying attention. And that shouldn't be surprising since he was about to be sworn in.
Scott Lloyd Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Buckeye said: We'll have to differ, then. I watched the same clip live. He seemed nervous and distracted to me, not really paying attention. And that shouldn't be surprising since he was about to be sworn in. If you didn't see him mouthing "America," you didn't see the shot I saw (NBC coverage). It was very clear and obvious. And I was watching live as well. Edited January 20, 2017 by Scott Lloyd
cinepro Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 15 hours ago, MiserereNobis said: In recent years, Jeffress has frequently denounced Islam, calling it an "evil religion" that "promotes pedophilia" because the Prophet Muhammed married a 9-year-old girl. (Many modern Muslim scholars disagree about her age.) The pastor has also said that Mormons, Muslims and Hindus "worship a false god." I believe Mulims prefer to say she was married "several months before her 10th birthday..." 3
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, snowflake said: I thought that the BOM and the brethren had agreed that the Catholic church was the Church of Satan....no? No.
Scott Lloyd Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, thesometimesaint said: No. Same old story. Outsiders presuming to define our doctrine for us. Edited January 20, 2017 by Scott Lloyd
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Same old story. Outsiders presuming to define out doctrine for us. That be true. Unfortunately.
Buckeye Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Same old story. Outsiders presuming to define out doctrine for us. Orson Pratt and Bruce R. McConkie are not exactly outsiders. http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon/Great_and_abominable_church 4
snowflake Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 47 minutes ago, Buckeye said: That's just the McConkities. Most members have let go of that awful idea. Thankfully, most members in my area never heard it. What church do you think the BOM refers to in 1 Nephi as the "great and abominable church".....I was raised on it being the Catholics.
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, snowflake said: What church do you think the BOM refers to in 1 Nephi as the "great and abominable church".....I was raised on it being the Catholics. SEE http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Mormon/Great_and_abominable_church
JAHS Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 Well he didn't mention Mormon's; unless you count the part where he spoke about Trump's critics. Here's the sermon: Robert Jeffrees sermon
Calm Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 6 hours ago, cdowis said: I doubt that the subject of the Mormons will come up. Even then, Trump is smart enough to ignore it, considering all of the criticisms and hate rhetoric he has himself been subjected to. It was his choice to get a pastor who is well known for his condemnation of others. Not like there aren't tons of others available. 1
snowflake Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Same old story. Outsiders presuming to define out doctrine for us. And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. (1 Nephi 14:10) So the LDS church is the church of the Lamb of God.....whoever belongeth not the the LDS church is the whore of all the earth.....I got it. And I thought that mean Jeffress was being intolerant.....cough.....cough....right. 1
MiserereNobis Posted January 20, 2017 Author Posted January 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, JAHS said: Well he didn't mention Mormon's; unless you count the part where he spoke about Trump's critics. Here's the sermon: Robert Jeffrees sermon Thanks for the link. That was quite a fawning flattering sermon. I'm sure Trump's ego just ate it up (maybe that's why he chose Jeffreess): Quote Today─one year later─God has raised you and Vice-President-elect Pence up for a great, eternal purpose. Quote President-elect Trump, you, Vice President-elect Pence, and your team have been called by God Quote Mr. President-elect, I don’t believe we have ever had a president with as many natural gifts as you. I wonder what previous inaugural sermons have been like. I wonder who Romney would have chosen to give it and what that person would have said. 3
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, snowflake said: And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth. (1 Nephi 14:10) So the LDS church is the church of the Lamb of God.....whoever belongeth not the the LDS church is the whore of all the earth.....I got it. And I thought that mean Jeffress was being intolerant.....cough.....cough....right. No, even those in the LDS church can be in the Church of the Devil. Just as those in other churches, or those that have never even heard of Jesus, can be in the Church of the Lamb of God. 4
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