The Gentiles Are Not Jesus Christ's People

[Tony Frank]

The Bible makes it clear that salvation comes only to those numbered among the house of Israel. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the gathering of Israel that had been prophesied in the Old Testament. The keys of salvation, which were on the earth when the Apostles went out to preach the gospel almost 2000 years ago, have been restored to the earth again in these latter days.

 

The Bible tells us that Jesus sent the Apostles to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” and specifically told them not to go to “the Gentiles.” The gospel was not preached to the Gentiles until after Peter had the vision that he related in Acts, chapter 11.

 

Paul told the Ephesians, who had been “Gentiles” but were now converted to the gospel and numbered among Israel, that they should “remember that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh . . . that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel.”

 

After accepting the gospel, the Ephesians were, as Paul stated, “no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and of the household of God” because they were now numbered with the saints and the household of God in the “commonwealth of Israel.”

 

The Gentiles who partook of the gospel “received the Spirit of adoption,” which is what Paul stated in his letter to the Romans because they were adopted into the house of Israel. Paul also told them that the Lord said, “I will call them my people, which were not my people . . . . And it shall come to pass that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”

 

Paul told the Corinthians that “the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God.” He also told the Corinthian saints to “give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God,” making it clear there were three separate entities that should not be given offence; the Jews, the Gentiles, and the church of God, which obviously means the Jews and the Gentiles did not belong to the church of God.

 

Immediately before the resurrected Savior ascended into heaven, the Apostles asked him, “Wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” This they did because they knew of the prophecies that the gathering of Israel would take place someday and that God would restore his kingdom to Israel.

 

More than 300 years after Christ’s resurrection from the dead, the prophet Mormon saw our day and wrote the words of Jesus Christ, who said;

 

“Turn, all ye Gentiles, from your wicked ways; and repent of your evil doings, of your lyings and deceivings, and of your whoredoms, and of your secret abominations, and your idolatries, and of your murders, and your priestcrafts, and your envyings, and your strifes, and from all your wickedness and abominations and come unto me, and be baptized in my name that ye may receive a remission of your sins, and be filled with the Holy Ghost that ye may be numbered with my people who are of the house of Israel.”

 

Jesus Christ’s people are the house of Israel, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the long-prophesied gathering of Israel. Salvation will come only to those numbered among the house of Israel.

 

Questions, comments, agree, disagree, other perspectives?

Edited October 29, 2015 by Tony Frank

[MiserereNobis]

What is the (hopefully succinct) point that you are trying to make?  That the LDS church is the only way to salvation?  Just trying to get through the long post to find your point

[Tsuzuki]

The entire original post was copy-pasted from here:

 

https://www.facebook.com/Testimony.of.Christ/posts/748566691866810

[MiserereNobis]

Oh, no!

 

I did a quick check of another of Tony Frank's long posts and it, too, was copy and pasted from Facebook.

 

Tony, Tony... plagiarism, dude!  You gotta cite your sources or you are stealing them.  And here we all thought you were long-winded, but in fact you are short winded... ctrl-c, ctrl-v short winded...

[Tony Frank]

The entire original post was copy-pasted from here:

 

https://www.facebook.com/Testimony.of.Christ/posts/748566691866810

 

Thank you, Tsuzuki. Yes, everyone please go to the facebook page I created, "The Bible & The Book of Mormon - Testimonies of Jesus Christ."

 

https://www.facebook.com/Testimony.of.Christ

[Tony Frank]

Oh, no!

 

I did a quick check of another of Tony Frank's long posts and it, too, was copy and pasted from Facebook.

 

Tony, Tony... plagiarism, dude!  You gotta cite your sources or you are stealing them.  And here we all thought you were long-winded, but in fact you are short winded... ctrl-c, ctrl-v short winded...

 

I created that facebook page, Mr. False Accuser, so feel free to apologize.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Tony Frank

[MiserereNobis]

You're right, it's not plagiarism if you wrote, but still.  How about some original content here and not just a repeat of what you said elsewhere?  The long posts do make for giggles, but not for good internet forum discussions

 

By the way, it's Mr. False Accuser...

[Tsuzuki]

Thank you, Tsuzuki. Yes, everyone please go to the facebook page I created, "The Bible & The Book of Mormon - Testimonies of Jesus Christ."

 

https://www.facebook.com/Testimony.of.Christ

I thought I was on your ignore list.

[saemo]

The Bible makes it clear that salvation comes only to those numbered among the house of Israel. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the gathering of Israel that had been prophesied in the Old Testament. The keys of salvation, which were on the earth when the Apostles went out to preach the gospel almost 2000 years ago, have been restored to the earth again in these latter days.

The Bible tells us that Jesus sent the Apostles to the “lost sheep of the house of Israel” and specifically told them not to go to “the Gentiles.” The gospel was not preached to the Gentiles until after Peter had the vision that he related in Acts, chapter 11.

Paul told the Ephesians, who had been “Gentiles” but were now converted to the gospel and numbered among Israel, that they should “remember that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh . . . that at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel.”

After accepting the gospel, the Ephesians were, as Paul stated, “no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and of the household of God” because they were now numbered with the saints and the household of God in the “commonwealth of Israel.”

The Gentiles who partook of the gospel “received the Spirit of adoption,” which is what Paul stated in his letter to the Romans because they were adopted into the house of Israel. Paul also told them that the Lord said, “I will call them my people, which were not my people . . . . And it shall come to pass that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.”

Paul told the Corinthians that “the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God.” He also told the Corinthian saints to “give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God,” making it clear there were three separate entities that should not be given offence; the Jews, the Gentiles, and the church of God, which obviously means the Jews and the Gentiles did not belong to the church of God.

Immediately before the resurrected Savior ascended into heaven, the Apostles asked him, “Wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?” This they did because they knew of the prophecies that the gathering of Israel would take place someday and that God would restore his kingdom to Israel.

More than 300 years after Christ’s resurrection from the dead, the prophet Mormon saw our day and wrote the words of Jesus Christ, who said;

“Turn, all ye Gentiles, from your wicked ways; and repent of your evil doings, of your lyings and deceivings, and of your whoredoms, and of your secret abominations, and your idolatries, and of your murders, and your priestcrafts, and your envyings, and your strifes, and from all your wickedness and abominations and come unto me, and be baptized in my name that ye may receive a remission of your sins, and be filled with the Holy Ghost that ye may be numbered with my people who are of the house of Israel.”

Jesus Christ’s people are the house of Israel, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the long-prophesied gathering of Israel. Salvation will come only to those numbered among the house of Israel.

In the NT, Gentiles refers most often to the pagan culture of the Romans and other non-Jewish sects.

And Jesus most certainly did command the Apostles, and prophecy, that the all nations, kindreds, tongues and people should be taught. Why explain away what Jesus established, as though it never existed? He established the Kingdom of God, during his ministry, before He ascended into Heaven. He never left His Kingdom to whither and die, either. His Kingdom is like Himself, which is alive. Our God is a God of the living, not the dead. That is my faith, in a triumphant Christ.

Edited October 29, 2015 by saemo

[Tony Frank]

I thought I was on your ignore list.

 

So did I. I was surprised to see your post. But even when someone is on the ignore list, you can still click "View it anyway."

[Tsuzuki]

So did I. I was surprised to see your post. But even when someone is on the ignore list, you can still click "View it anyway."

Must be my Master Mahan powers again.

[volgadon]

What is the (hopefully succinct) point that you are trying to make?  That the LDS church is the only way to salvation?  Just trying to get through the long post to find your point

That we are mensches and you are not.

[Tony Frank]

You're right, it's not plagiarism if you wrote, but still.  How about some original content here and not just a repeat of what you said elsewhere?  The long posts do make for giggles, but not for good internet forum discussions

 

By the way, it's Mr. False Accuser...

 

The doctrine does not change just because I am in a different forum. I speak what I think people need to hear.

[Tsuzuki]

The doctrine does not change just because I am in a different forum. I speak what I think people need to hear.

If I recall correctly, preaching is against forum rules.

[Maedros]

Mark 9: 38 ¶And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw onecasting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

 39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

 40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

 41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

[The Nehor]

I created that facebook page, Mr. False Accuser, so feel free to apologize.

 

Only after you apologize for being boring.

[Tony Frank]

If I recall correctly, preaching is against forum rules.

 

When one speaks about the doctrine, one is discussing the doctrine, and this is a "discussion" forum. Hence, I speak what I think people need to hear.

[Damien the Leper]

When one speaks about the doctrine, one is discussing the doctrine, and this is a "discussion" forum. Hence, I speak what I think people need to hear.

That's still preaching. No one here needs any kind of evangelization. You are not church leadership and we'll not be chastised or evangelized by the likes of you. You're not a watchman on any tower and you are definitely not a warrior for the Kingdom.

[halconero]

You're right, it's not plagiarism if you wrote, but still.  How about some original content here and not just a repeat of what you said elsewhere?  The long posts do make for giggles, but not for good internet forum discussions

 

By the way, it's Mr. False Accuser...

 

Funnily enough, you can actually plagiarize yourself if you do not cite your own prior sources when creating a new work, and can be penalized by multiple universities.

[Ares]

Preach somewhere else.  If you have a specific topic to discuss or point to make - make it without cutting and pasting.