Getting Into A Frenzy About A Slather Of Lipstick

[Scott Lloyd]

Cool stories. Thanks for sharing. I always enjoy hearing first hand accounts.

 

In the cases of your personal accounts and that of Elder Ballard's granddaughter, we are required to judge the credibility of the stories. I doubt that neither your experience nor the granddaughter's are universally representative of Elder Ballard, either in the positive or the negative.

I can only say that in 30-plus years of interacting with Elder Ballard and some who know him intimately, I have never heard a negative word spoken about him until now. That's got to count for something.

[The Nehor]

3 over 20+ years is an industry? It doesn't sound very vibrant.

 

They are kind of like the Jaguars or the Raiders. Hopelessly ineffective but still somehow have fans that sing their praises.

[Jeanne]

I'm still not impressed with her taking private comments public.  I've said plenty to my oldest son about watching his weight and diet now that he is out of military service and not exercising as regularly.  

 

Out of context anything can sound offensive, even those things said from compassion and caring.

I think what really got to her was expectations of perfection.

[The Nehor]

I think what really got to her was expectations of perfection.

 

If not being overweight is perfection then I am perfect. Hooray!

[Calm]

I think what really got to her was expectations of perfection.

Unfortunately there are very many individuals who don't have apostles for grandparents or who aren't members of the Church who have perfection complexes, so I think it highly likely it is a more complicated picture of where her difficulties came from.

While both my parents made constant reference to weight when I hit my teens (looking back I wasn't overweight until after my first pregnancy where first exhaustion, then medication of misdiagnosing my disorder and probably mostly me eating food as a sedative, puberty just changed me from a thin little sparrow into more of a large pigeon plus my sister was built differently and enjoyed eating even when young unlike me and they were really concerned about her as she became a compulsive nighttime eater...more than likely due to their obsession with her enjoying her food and wanting second helpings growing up so I think it just bled over to me) I was not as fit as I could have been due to lots of reading alone in my room and bad posture (what I needed was to work on core muscles, especially abdomen), me not being the shape of the girls and women I saw as portrayed as the standard of beauty on TV, movies, and other media as well as watching the girls that got attention at school had a much greater impact on me not seeing myself as attractive. For one thing, while my parents obsessed about weight for some reason...Mom as a teen put everyone in her family on a diet one year (maybe it was her dad almost dying of a heart attack a few years before and her coming home to feed him at lunchtime from school every day afraid she would find him dead that started her obsession with food and health, made her the best cook I have ever known btw)...was always about health, not attractiveness. They never said it made me unattractive.

Anyway, all that was to be a demonstration it does not have to relate at all to church membership, teachings or culture for relatives to have focused too much on weight issues.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Calm