Lds Undermining Calls To Acceptance As Christian

[Joshua Valentine]

Thank you Russell.  

 

I found these teachings of the LDS Church which show some peculiar aspects about

Jesus.  He was not always God but also had to progress into a God.

 

"By obedience and devotion to the truth he (Jesus) attained that pinnacle of intelligence 

which ranked him as a God, as the Lord Omnipotent, while yet in his pre-existent state" 

(Religion 430-431 - Doctrines of the Gospel Student Manual, 2004, page 10).

 

"Christ, who is the firstborn in the Spirit of the children of God, was elevated to 

Godhood, and in the vision Abraham saw he describes him as being like unto God" (LDS 

President Joseph Fielding Smith, The Progress of Man, chapter 6, page 74).

 

"Jesus was appointed to Godhood. In the Meridian of Time Christ came into the world, 

in fulfillment of the promise and appointment" (LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith, 

The Progress of Man, chapter 43, pages 511-512). 

 

"The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was Jesus Christ (see D&C 93:21), so he 

is literally our elder brother (see Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 26)" [1997 Gospel

Principles]..

 

"Two of our brothers offered to help. Our oldest brother, Jesus Christ, who was then called

Jehovah, said, “Here am I, send me” (Abraham 3:27) [1997 Gospel Principles teaching

that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers].

 

The above teachings are not in the scriptures.  D&C 93:21 does not mention a heavenly

mother. Neither does Abraham 3:27 say Lucifer is Christ's brother.

 

Is this the Jesus you worship?

 

Thanks,

Jim

Jim, for the integrity of the thread, please start another thread if you want to discuss LDS teachings on Jesus instead of consistency of LDS positions on group identification (the topic of this thread).

Thanks

[Nemesis]

 

Thank you Russell.  

 

I found these teachings of the LDS Church which show some peculiar aspects about

Jesus.  He was not always God but also had to progress into a God.

 

"By obedience and devotion to the truth he (Jesus) attained that pinnacle of intelligence 

which ranked him as a God, as the Lord Omnipotent, while yet in his pre-existent state" 

(Religion 430-431 - Doctrines of the Gospel Student Manual, 2004, page 10).

 

"Christ, who is the firstborn in the Spirit of the children of God, was elevated to 

Godhood, and in the vision Abraham saw he describes him as being like unto God" (LDS 

President Joseph Fielding Smith, The Progress of Man, chapter 6, page 74).

 

"Jesus was appointed to Godhood. In the Meridian of Time Christ came into the world, 

in fulfillment of the promise and appointment" (LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith, 

The Progress of Man, chapter 43, pages 511-512). 

 

"The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was Jesus Christ (see D&C 93:21), so he 

is literally our elder brother (see Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 26)" [1997 Gospel

Principles]..

 

"Two of our brothers offered to help. Our oldest brother, Jesus Christ, who was then called

Jehovah, said, “Here am I, send me” (Abraham 3:27) [1997 Gospel Principles teaching

that Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers].

 

The above teachings are not in the scriptures.  D&C 93:21 does not mention a heavenly

mother. Neither does Abraham 3:27 say Lucifer is Christ's brother.

 

Is this the Jesus you worship?

 

Thanks,

Jim

 

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[The Nehor]

The Strangites are still around, and they consider themselves Mormons. And I remember a time when I was younger when the Brighamite church didn't want to be called "Mormons", and was very insistent on "Latter-day Saints" instead. Now that "Mormon" has brand value, they want to claim it for themselves, but it's not just theirs.

 

And if they had listened then we would be known more as LDS instead of Mormon and this wouldn't be a problem.