rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Way to go Utah! Outspoken protectors of the sanctity of marriage. You have the eighth highest rate of paid users on the (recently hacked) website Ashley Madison. (A site that helps married people find other married people to have affairs with.) Here's the article & data: http://fusion.net/story/185853/the-united-states-of-ashley-madison/
bluebell Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) The article I read listed it at 18th.But I see that this list is measuring something different. People who actually paid. Edited August 21, 2015 by bluebell
Duncan Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Where is this list of folks who got outed? I wanna see if I know anyone!
rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) The article I read listed it at 18th. If you will provide the citation, we can compare the data used. The article I cited used the number of paying users as a ratio of adult population. Edited August 21, 2015 by rockpond
jkwilliams Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 If you will provide the citation, we can compare the data used. The article I cited used the number of paying users. Yes, that does appear to be the distinction. Apparently people can sign up for free, and Utah is 18th in the percentage of population that signed up. But actually using the service costs money, so paid users are a better indicator of how much the service is used. By that measure, Utah is higher on the list.
ALarson Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Where is this list of folks who got outed? I wanna see if I know anyone! You can enter emails here and do a search for those who were signed up: http://www.trustify.info/check
bluebell Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 It's interesting that Alabama is number one for most people who signed up and yet is at the bottom for people who paid. Apparently only the wealthy can afford Ashley Madison.
Popular Post smac97 Posted August 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted August 21, 2015 Way to go Utah! Outspoken protectors of the sanctity of marriage. You have the eighth highest rate of paid users on the (recently hacked) website Ashley Madison. (A site that helps married people find other married people to have affairs with.) Here's the article & data: http://fusion.net/story/185853/the-united-states-of-ashley-madison/ Ah! I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning! Thanks, -Smac 6
thesometimesaint Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 But But Utahan's family values are so much better than Californian's.
jkwilliams Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Ah! I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning! Thanks, -Smac Schadenfreude aside, I wonder what the factors are that determine whether someone is going to sign up and pay for that service? Obviously, marital dissatisfaction is the likely reason people sign up for such things, but then, as the Alabama example shows, it's likely disposable income that determines whether one pays for it. So, marital dissatisfaction is not far from average among Utahns, but disposable income may be higher, at least among those who would likely sign up for Ashley Madison.
thesometimesaint Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Schadenfreude aside, I wonder what the factors are that determine whether someone is going to sign up and pay for that service? Obviously, marital dissatisfaction is the likely reason people sign up for such things, but then, as the Alabama example shows, it's likely disposable income that determines whether one pays for it. So, marital dissatisfaction is not far from average among Utahns, but disposable income may be higher, at least among those who would likely sign up for Ashley Madison. Disposable income is a big factor.
KevinG Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Its always fun to judge a religion/culture/people by those who fail to uphold their standards. So what is the recommendation? Do away with standards of behavior or encourage people to adhere to them more faithfully? I predict an uptick in those who are excommunicated because the church is out to get them. 1
KevinG Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Disposable income is a big factor. My wife and I have a running joke that divorce would be too expensive, so we work on our marriage instead. Ouch! 2
rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 Ah! I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning! Thanks, -Smac It's not schadenfreude, just commenting on the scent of hypocrisy in the air.
stemelbow Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Schadenfreude aside, I wonder what the factors are that determine whether someone is going to sign up and pay for that service? Obviously, marital dissatisfaction is the likely reason people sign up for such things, but then, as the Alabama example shows, it's likely disposable income that determines whether one pays for it. So, marital dissatisfaction is not far from average among Utahns, but disposable income may be higher, at least among those who would likely sign up for Ashley Madison. Marital satisfaction can result in many behaviors, many of which have nothing to do with Ashley Madison. It's really just one factor and by itself doesn't really say anything about a particular state.
Popular Post rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Author Popular Post Posted August 21, 2015 Its always fun to judge a religion/culture/people by those who fail to uphold their standards. So what is the recommendation? Do away with standards of behavior or encourage people to adhere to them more faithfully? I predict an uptick in those who are excommunicated because the church is out to get them. Maybe it isn't gays that are destroying marriage. 5
jkwilliams Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 My wife and I have a running joke that divorce would be too expensive, so we work on our marriage instead. Ouch! Reminds me of the title of a book I once read: "A Marriage Made in Heaven, or Too Tired to Have an Affair." 2
stemelbow Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 It's not schadenfreude, just commenting on the scent of hypocrisy in the air. It's probably a little hasty to conclude hypocrisy of a state from data about Mashley Addison. But no doubt, we're all a little hypocritical, so accusing hypocrisy is a very tough thing to do. 1
jkwilliams Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 Marital satisfaction can result in many behaviors, many of which have nothing to do with Ashley Madison. It's really just one factor and by itself doesn't really say anything about a particular state. I'm not assigning one factor, just wondering what the factors are. Lots of people who are unhappy in their marriages don't have affairs, and lots of people who have affairs don't sign up for sites like Ashley Madison.
Popular Post KevinG Posted August 21, 2015 Popular Post Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) It's not schadenfreude, just commenting on the scent of hypocrisy in the air. You might want to check who in Utah is using an affair site. I'm guessing there are a lot of faithful Latter-day Saints who didn't even know what Ashley Madison was until it hit the papers this week. Would it have been better for the Saints to avoid teaching marital fidelity so we didn't accidentally embarrass an adulterer among us? Using these revelations of adultery among citizens of Utah as a brickbat to criticize says more about the critic than it does the average citizen of Utah. Edited August 21, 2015 by KevinG 8
stemelbow Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 I'm not assigning one factor, just wondering what the factors are. Lots of people who are unhappy in their marriages don't have affairs, and lots of people who have affairs don't sign up for sites like Ashley Madison. That's why this doesn't by itself, conclude much about a state. 1
ALarson Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 I hadn't ever heard of this website until the story broke about it being hacked (and then the Josh Duggar connection). But from reading that story, it seems to be a member on there was kind of pricey.
rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 It's probably a little hasty to conclude hypocrisy of a state from data about Mashley Addison. But no doubt, we're all a little hypocritical, so accusing hypocrisy is a very tough thing to do. Agreed.
jkwilliams Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 You might want to check who in Utah is using an affair site. I'm guessing there are a lot of faithful Latter-day Saints who didn't even know what Ashley Madison was until it hit the papers this week. Would it have been better for the Saints to avoid teaching marital fidelity so we didn't accidentally embarrass an adulterer among us? I think it's a safe bet at least some of the people using the site are active Latter-day Saints. If pornography is as big a problem within the church as we're told it is, it shouldn't surprise us that infidelity is a problem, too.
rockpond Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 You might want to check who in Utah is using an affair site. I'm guessing there are a lot of faithful Latter-day Saints who didn't even know what Ashley Madison was until it hit the papers this week. Would it have been better for the Saints to avoid teaching marital fidelity so we didn't accidentally embarrass an adulterer among us? Using these revelations of adultery among citizens of Utah as a brickbat to criticize says more about the critic than it does the average citizen of Utah. It doesn't say anything about any individual. It says something about the state.
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