What Are Your Motives?

[CCRW]

Primarily to be part of a broader effort to keep the playing field level for the gospel and Church of Jesus Christ by exposing and countering where I can the speciousness of antagonistic argumentation or assertions.

 

Thank you for loosening that tie a bit and joining us.

 

oh and please, please forgive my spelling and grammar ... it must drive you mad.

I'm handicapped in this way

Edited April 24, 2015 by CCRW

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

 

 

oh and please, please forgive my spelling and grammar ... it must drive you mad.

I'm handicapped in this way

Me too, it never stopped me from posting my thoughts. I think, in general, that people understand what I am saying.

[Scott Lloyd]

Thank you for loosening that tie a bit and joining us.

 

oh and please, please forgive my spelling and grammar ... it must drive you mad.

I'm handicapped in this way

If it does, I'll let you know.

[bluebell]

I like discussing religion (always have) and as a stay at home mom it's nice to have adult conversations during the day.

[Robert F. Smith]

No I’m not, yes you are, no I’m not, yes you are, no I’m not, yes you are ...

 

Who dares post up the truth about their motives of being here?

Most people are not in touch with their inner motivation, so would not know why they are really here anyway.  Even if they did know why they were here, there is no reason to think that anyone would believe their disclosure.  We are forced to take each other at face value, unless otherwise indicated . . .

[Buckeye]

Are you open to spelling reminders as well? (grammar, not grammer)

 

It worked!

[CCRW]

Most people are not in touch with their inner motivation, so would not know why they are really here anyway.  

I was impressed with this answer: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/65282-what-are-your-motives/?p=1209489150 It's likely a good idea to stop and think about this.  It made me stop and ponder my reasons and needs for being here.  And I still need to think about this some more.

 

Even if they did know why they were here, there is no reason to think that anyone would believe their disclosure.

Which disclosures here do you not believe (rhetorical of course)?  I'm not sure I agree with this.

 

We are forced to take each other at face value, unless otherwise indicated . . .

yes, but are we really looking for a human face?

eta: and are we willing to show one?

Edited April 24, 2015 by CCRW

[Robert F. Smith]

 

Most people are not in touch with their inner motivation, so would not know why they are really here anyway.  

I was impressed with this answer: http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/65282-what-are-your-motives/?p=1209489150 It's likely a good idea to stop and think about this.  It made me stop and ponder my reasons and needs for being here.  And I still need to think about this some more.

 

Even if they did know why they were here, there is no reason to think that anyone would believe their disclosure.

Which disclosures here do you not believe (rhetorical of course)?  I'm not sure I agree with this.

 

We are forced to take each other at face value, unless otherwise indicated . . .

yes, but are we really looking for a human face?

eta: and are we willing to show one?

 

All the world's a stage, CCRW, and we are but players in it.

[omni]

Are you open to spelling reminders as well? (grammar, not grammer)

While you're at it could you please explain for the benefit of the board the difference between "yeah", "ya", and "yea"? Just a little pet leave of mine. Thanks in advance.

[Tacenda]

All the world's a stage, CCRW, and we are but players in it.

How come you distrust motives like that? Every single post here seems authentic to me.

[Scott Lloyd]

While you're at it could you please explain for the benefit of the board the difference between "yeah", "ya", and "yea"? Just a little pet leave of mine. Thanks in advance.

For what it's worth:

 

link

 

Also:

 

link

 

And here:

 

link

[Jeanne]

As probably one of few on here who is post mormon, I don't reallly want to sway and of course have more questions because I have been on both sides of the fence.  Despite the fact that I am quite blunt and honest, I do realize that I may not have all of the knowledge that others may have.  I will always be open..which is why I am here.  So many of you understand the things that I was confronted with almost ten years ago.  I appreciate that understanding but that being said, this means there are some things YOU know that the next person sitting next to you does not..I am here because I want to satisfy the wonder of it all...the truth, the untruths and all under revelation..people stay.

[BookofMormonLuvr]

I had to check my join date so I could figure out why I initially joined...

I initially joined so I could debate LDS folks about the merits of their version of church history and certain of their doctrines- and try to convince them the RLDS way is better.

I now participate because I like good conversation with fellow Book of Mormon believers. I no longer try to attempt to argue the RLDS POV, as my personal ideas and beliefs have evolved in the last 3 years, and I am pretty much a heretic to both "Brighamite" and "Josephite". So I just share the conclusions I have come to, as a point of interest, not to "convert" any one to anything.

[3DOP]

How come you distrust motives like that? Every single post here seems authentic to me.

I won't speak for Robert, but I tend to agree with his observation here. It would not be because we are consciously being deceptive, but because we are sometimes lacking in self-knowledge.

[Robert F. Smith]

All the world's a stage, CCRW, and we are but players in it.

How come you distrust motives like that? Every single post here seems authentic to me.

3DOP seems to explain my point better than I have, I admit.  However, I also said above that we must all take each other at face value (unless it becomes clear that our trust was misplaced).

 

The primary problem is in us and in our lack of self-knowledge.  We seldom turn the search light inward to examine ourselves, and it isn't always fun or pleasant to do so.  However, Gandhi-ji strongly recommended that we do so, and a number of the Brethren have even recommended meditation.  Exploring who we really are and why we do what we do can be helpful in a host of ways, from improving our relations with friends, family, and outsiders, to helping us to see where we might need to improve ourselves (be less selfish, or less blind to our own faults and obsessions -- to the exclusion of consideration for others, etc.), understand Jesus' parables better, and feel the Gospel message more intimately.  Make your own list of preferences.

 

President David O. McKay:

 

“I think we pay too little attention to the value of meditation, a principle of devotion. … Meditation is the language of the soul. It is defined as ‘a form of private devotion or spiritual exercise, consisting in deep, continued reflection on some religious theme.’ Meditation is a form of prayer. …

 

“Meditation is one of the most secret, most sacred doors through which we pass into the presence of the Lord” (Man May Know for Himself, compiler Clare Middlemiss [sLC: Deseret Book, 1969], 22–23).

Edited April 25, 2015 by Robert F. Smith