The Dark Side Of The Doctrine Of Eternal Familes

[EllenMaksoud]

Oh! Beautiful. We need a poetry thread.

Well, you will have to start it. I am grounded.

[saemo]

Well, you will have to start it. I am grounded.

LOL. Well, we must begin with William Blake. Or wait, maybe Nabakov.

Edited May 9, 2014 by saemo

[Raingirl]

And you would know what was said to me how? And the "real story" ... Hmmm are you saying I am misrepresenting the facts?

And you would know what was said to me how? And the "real story" ... Hmmm are you saying I am misrepresenting the facts?

Yes, I am. Many things that you post here are not reflective of reality. Those of us who know you in real life are acutely and painfully aware of this.

Your issues cannot be blamed on the church or it's members...or on Islam...or any of the religions you have floated in and out of over the years.

[EllenMaksoud]

Yes, I am. Many things that you post here are not reflective of reality. Those of us who know you in real life are acutely and painfully aware of this.

Your issues cannot be blamed on the church or it's members...or on Islam...or any of the religions you have floated in and out of over the years.

So, you confront me in public without my knowing who you are, for what purpose? You can have your opinion of me, but I can not know how you come to these conclusions? Did you simply comment here to humiliate? And, how would you measure reality? By what standard do you measure your own?

 

Oh, wait, I know who you are and you aren't nice in real life either. On ignore you go. You were there once before, but I thought that you had gotten nicer.

Edited May 10, 2014 by EllenMaksoud

[ERayR]

You know ... I'm sorry. Circumstances are really stressful right now and I responded improperly.

 

I understand stress.  My wife is bedridden and terminal (how soon is unknown) and that is only part of it.  I too respond inappropriately at times.  Sometimes unintentional.  Other times not so much.  Stress seems to be part and parcel of the human experience.  I strongly suspect that is by design.  I thing with this many of his children acting as they do there is probable a little stress there too.

[thesometimesaint]

I understand stress.  My wife is bedridden and terminal (how soon is unknown) and that is only part of it.  I too respond inappropriately at times.  Sometimes unintentional.  Other times not so much.  Stress seems to be part and parcel of the human experience.  I strongly suspect that is by design.  I thing with this many of his children acting as they do there is probable a little stress there too.

 

I truly am sorry. May the Lord help you and sustain you.

[Tacenda]

I understand stress. My wife is bedridden and terminal (how soon is unknown) and that is only part of it. I too respond inappropriately at times. Sometimes unintentional. Other times not so much. Stress seems to be part and parcel of the human experience. I strongly suspect that is by design. I thing with this many of his children acting as they do there is probable a little stress there too.

God bless your wife, and her selfless husband.

[ERayR]

I truly am sorry. May the Lord help you and sustain you.

 

Thanks.  He does.

[ERayR]

God bless your wife, and her selfless husband.

 

Not so selfless.  She has followed me over4 or 5 states, washed my socks and underwear, and put up with me for 54 years.

[EllenMaksoud]

Not so selfless.  She has followed me over4 or 5 states, washed my socks and underwear, and put up with me for 54 years.

I am so sorry for your pain and that of your wife. I know that you will meet again in a better place when this time is finished.  It would have been 49 years this March for us.

[Kenngo1969]

I cannot even begin to compare my own trials to those of anyone else who has weighed in.  (Lest anyone think that is what I am doing, it's not.  It's just that I can only speak to what I know.)  While I would never minimize anyone's trials, I do wonder, sometimes, if the stress we feel largely is self-imposed (in fact, truth be told, I know that’s often true in my case): one cannot control one's circumstances; all he can do is control how he reacts to them.  In my own case, I followed what was, for me, a grueling, arduous educational and professional path (but one that, as grueling and arduous as it was, I felt more-or-less compelled [at least at the time, though I often have wondered since] to take; though I also ask, “OK, it’s easy to tell myself I should have done something else instead, but what – answer phones for ten bucks an hour?”). 

 

After much longer than the usual time it takes to get that particular degree, I finally got mine.  Then, I was denied the license necessary to practice that particular profession due, in part, to some circumstances which were within my control, but due, in larger part (at the risk of rationalizing) to circumstances which were not.  I have been reluctant to reapply for several years, for fear that the licensing authority will say, in essence, "Yes, we know you've done 'A,' 'B,' and 'C,' but because you haven't done ‘D₁’ through ‘Z_∞,’ we’re still not going to admit you.”

 

Reflection and prayer led me to say, essentially, “OK, so you’re not going to get licensed – at least, not in the immediate future.  Is there something else you can do to make yourself more attractive in that field, your lack of licensure notwithstanding?”  And I was led, I felt, to get an undergraduate credential (a paralegal certification).  After another 2 ½ years, I still hadn’t gotten a job in that field, but the answer was still more-or-less the same: “Maybe you’ll be licensed, maybe not; in the meantime, just do what it takes to maintain your paralegal certification.”  I’ve now had the CP for 3 ½ years, and still no job.  Still, the answer’s the same: “Focus on what you can control in the immediate future: maintain your certification.”  So, I’m taking an undergraduate distance learning class in [Drumroll, please!]  Criminal Procedure!  It’s similar to what I studied as an undergrad and, while I hesitate to say that anything law-related is anything like a forte of mine, if I have one, Crim Pro is it.  (Although you would never guess from my law school grades! )  Talk about jumping from the fire back into the frying pan!  I’d like to shake my fist at God and ask, “Am I ever actually going to get to use any of this hard-won knowledge?  Am I ever gonna get paid to do anything, or am I doomed to stay in school for the rest of my life – in this instance, taking a class I could probably teach?”

 

But, as difficult as it is, things could be worse: poverty-level income notwithstanding, I’m still managing, slowly but surely, to pay down my loans.  (Think of how much I’d have to pay back if I’d gone to Harvard! )  And hey!  I’ll get an ‘A’ in undergraduate (albeit UPPER DIVISION) Criminal Procedure!

[Raingirl]

I am so sorry for your pain and that of your wife. I know that you will meet again in a better place when this time is finished.  It would have been 49 years this March for us.

Your situations are not comparable. You were divorced from your wife, not left a widower.

[strappinglad]

Your situations are not comparable. You were divorced from your wife, not left a widower.

Now you are just being mean. Divorce is right up there on the " stress level" in human experience. Whatever bone you have to pick with Ellen , keep charity in mind.