ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 A friend of mine just emailed me that the Book of Abraham papyri will be on display this Friday and asked me to go with them. Does anyone know anything about this? If it's legit, I figured many on here would be going. Thanks in advance for any additional information on this.Here's the quote that was in the email (taken from somewhere online and I'll try to find the source):Hey everyone! I know there was a post about this last week somewhere and I just wanted to confirm some of the details: My religion professor (Thom Wayment) announced that the Book of Abraham papryi will be viewable in conjunction with the BYU Church History Symposium held this Thursday and Friday. Friday, the symposium will take place in Salt Lake City from 9 am to 5 pm. During any of those hours, the Book of Abraham papyri will be available to the public to see in the Church History Museum (45 North West Temple SLC). This event is open and free to the public. You do not have to be affiliated with the church or symposium in any way. It will only be available from 9 am to 5 pm on Friday. I only know what my professor has told me, so I'm not sure where exactly in the Church History Museum you can find it or what the process will actually be like.
cinepro Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 They should set up an empty display case next to the exhibit. Kind of a "Tomb of the Unknown Papyrus". 1
ksfisher Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 I don't see anything about it on the museum web site.
ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 They should set up an empty display case next to the exhibit. Kind of a "Tomb of the Unknown Papyrus".I have to admit that I am not too knowledgeable on this topic. But I did think the church was in possession of the papyri. Am I mistaken here?So do you think this is not for real or is a prank? (I would like to know before I rearrange my schedule and drive up )Thanks.
Tacenda Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 I have to admit that I am not too knowledgeable on this topic. But I did think the church was in possession of the papyri. Am I mistaken here?So do you think this is not for real or is a prank? (I would like to know before I rearrange my schedule and drive up )Thanks.They have possession of it. I'm curious as to why they are displaying it now if the email is true. But maybe they've displayed it on several occasions, that I'm unaware of.
ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 Thomas Wayment is a BYU professor. I guess I can try to email him about it since he is named as the source of this.
phaedrus ut Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 I have to admit that I am not too knowledgeable on this topic. But I did think the church was in possession of the papyri. Am I mistaken here?So do you think this is not for real or is a prank? (I would like to know before I rearrange my schedule and drive up )Thanks.One of the apologetic theories to explain why the extant papyrus and facsimiles don't translated into the Book of Abraham is that there is missing papyrus. It's that missing papyrus that contains the text of the BoA. Phaedrus
ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 One of the apologetic theories to explain why the extant papyrus and facsimiles don't translated into the Book of Abraham is that there is missing papyrus. It's that missing papyrus that contains the text of the BoA. PhaedrusGot it. Thanks.But these same apologists do believe the portion the church has is the actual papyri that Joseph Smith possessed, correct? And, from what I can find out, these are actually going to be on display. I will try to go up and view them.
Tacenda Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Got it. Thanks.But these same apologists do believe the portion the church has is the actual papyri that Joseph Smith possessed, correct? And, from what I can find out, these are actually going to be on display. I will try to go up and view them.I would call the LDS Church History Museum, they'll have an answer.
phaedrus ut Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Got it. Thanks.But these same apologists do believe the portion the church has is the actual papyri that Joseph Smith possessed, correct?And, from what I can find out, these are actually going to be on display. I will try to go up and view them.The easy answer is yes. The existing papyrus and fragments were among those obtained by Joseph. There are other papyrus where all that is left are reproductions made by the church. The missing papyrus theory speculates that there are additional missing papyrus that translates to the BoA but doesn't presently exist and wasn't preserved by reproduction. Phaedrus
Scott Barton Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 A friend of mine just emailed me that the Book of Abraham papyri will be on display this Friday and asked me to go with them. Does anyone know anything about this? If it's legit, I figured many on here would be going. Thanks in advance for any additional information on this.Here's the quote that was in the email (taken from somewhere online and I'll try to find the source):The source of your quoted material is from the exMormon Subreddit. It goes on to say, "Because the Book of Abraham stuff is such a polarizing topic within the church, its display is not allowed to be advertised anywhere, on the online schedule or otherwise. My religion professor was allowed to announce it in class."
ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 The easy answer is yes. The existing papyrus and fragments were among those obtained by Joseph. There are other papyrus where all that is left are reproductions made by the church. The missing papyrus theory speculates that there are additional missing papyrus that translates to the BoA but doesn't presently exist and wasn't preserved by reproduction.PhaedrusThank you for the explanation, Phaedrus. What you wrote helps to make more sense out of many of the discussions on here.
ALarson Posted March 5, 2013 Author Posted March 5, 2013 The papyri is also available to view online now:http://josephsmithpapers.org/paperSummary/egyptian-papyri
Calm Posted March 5, 2013 Posted March 5, 2013 Here is the symposium announcement:http://religion.byu.edu/event/2013-byu-church-history-symposium
ALarson Posted March 6, 2013 Author Posted March 6, 2013 Here is the symposium announcement:http://religion.byu....story-symposiumThank you for posting this link, calmoriah.
Duncan Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 glad I am not the one having to do the "tore" as my neighbours to the South are want to say! but seriously, I would be so lost having to explain it and answering questions-someone is earning their keep that night
Tacenda Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I stopped in on my way to a family dinner but got there a couple minutes late and the security guard said It was closed, I was pretty disappointed. Did any of you make it? What made me late was that for some reason I thought it was at the Church Museum, but I was running late anyway.
Duncan Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I stopped in on my way to a family dinner but got there a couple minutes late and the security guard said It was closed, I was pretty disappointed. Did any of you make it? What made me late was that for some reason I thought it was at the Church Museum, but I was running late anyway.http://bycommonconsent.com/2013/03/08/display-announcement-lds-church-history-library-treasures-of-the-archives-today-only/worth a look!
Tacenda Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 http://bycommonconsent.com/2013/03/08/display-announcement-lds-church-history-library-treasures-of-the-archives-today-only/worth a look!Thanks Duncan I will, I guess it's better than nothing. 1
Tacenda Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Is the KEP shown in the New Editions of the scriptures, anyone?
William Schryver Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) nevermind Edited March 9, 2013 by William Schryver
Calm Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) Is the KEP shown in the New Editions of the scriptures, anyone?Why would it be? Why do you think it provides any scriptorial information? Edited March 9, 2013 by calmoriah
Tacenda Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Why would it be? Why do you think it provides any scriptorial information? Didn't the papyri use to be? Did I call it the wrong thing?
Calm Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Didn't the papyri use to be? Did I call it the wrong thing?Yes, the KEP are the Kirtland Egyptian Papers and not the papyri themselves.http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri/Kirtland_Egyptian_Papers
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