Vance Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 brightpath, I think I get it now. It is rather obvious that no one on this board has the spiritual insight you have. In fact, it is obvious that no one in the history of the church has the spiritual insight you have. No one in the history of the church, no prophet or apostle or general authority, has ever been able to see the prophesy you have found. And so, it begs the question, "Are you, brightpath, the fulfillment of this prophesy?" I think you must be. You need to hurry to SLC and tell President Monson, the First Presidency, and Quorum of the Twelve that you are the fulfillment of this prophesy and that you are the true heir to the Presidency of the Priesthood. And if they don't agree with you, you can simply excommunicate them and take over the church. If the membership doesn't follow you, just excommunicate them all, and start over again.
brightpath Posted May 10, 2013 Author Posted May 10, 2013 brightpath, I think I get it now. It is rather obvious that no one on this board has the spiritual insight you have. In fact, it is obvious that no one in the history of the church has the spiritual insight you have. No one in the history of the church, no prophet or apostle or general authority, has ever been able to see the prophesy you have found. And so, it begs the question, "Are you, brightpath, the fulfillment of this prophesy?" I think you must be. You need to hurry to SLC and tell President Monson, the First Presidency, and Quorum of the Twelve that you are the fulfillment of this prophesy and that you are the true heir to the Presidency of the Priesthood. And if they don't agree with you, you can simply excommunicate them and take over the church. If the membership doesn't follow you, just excommunicate them all, and start over again.I beg to differ Vance. Joseph Smith did. David Whitmore did, Orson Pratt did. Spencer Kimball did. George P Lee did. Monte S Lyman did. Brother Echohawk does. Should I go on?
Vance Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 I beg to differ Vance. Joseph Smith did. David Whitmore did, Orson Pratt did. Spencer Kimball did. George P Lee did. Monte S Lyman did. Brother Echohawk does. Should I go on? CFR!
brightpath Posted May 10, 2013 Author Posted May 10, 2013 CFR!Educate yourself and do some digging first.
Ares Posted May 10, 2013 Posted May 10, 2013 Educate yourself and do some digging first.This is not an appropriate response to a call for references. Either provide them or retract your statement.
rodheadlee Posted May 11, 2013 Posted May 11, 2013 Casman you have no credibility here. You are the one that says the broken off branch are the Gentiles and you are the one that says the 3 men are talking about Samuel the Lamanite with no refs. Tell me how the Gentiles are the broken off branch and not Joseph?Where is a better place to hide the lost 10 tribes than among the Gentiles? Explain that to me please, if they are not hidden among the Gentiles, where are they?
brightpath Posted June 6, 2013 Author Posted June 6, 2013 Where is a better place to hide the lost 10 tribes than among the Gentiles? Explain that to me please, if they are not hidden among the Gentiles, where are they?The lost 10 tribes are not among the Gentiles. Only God knows where they are. We only know they will come forth from the north after the New Jerusalem is built.
woundedwarrior Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 From the parable of the tame olive tree and the wild olive tree.The Lord God Knowing the nature of his children, warned them of being trampled by other nations and eventually bringing destruction upon themselves.He prepare a plan, to bring restoration the natural tree (tamed olive tree or Israel) because of his great mercies and love for his children.The grafting in of wild branches of the wild olive tree (gentiles) to the natural tree (house of Israel) was for the soul purpose of sparing the natural tree or tame olive tree ( Israel)because the Lord once delighted in the exceedingly good fruit it produced.The Lord also removed branches ( remnants of the house of Israel) and planted them in many parts of the world. Many of the branches produced delightful fruit.After a time and season the grafted in wild branches began to over grow and weakened the roots of the tamed olive tree, so the lord began to once again restore or graft in the natural branches to the tamed olive to tree.GENTILES were grafted in by way of the blood of Ephraim. The fulfilment of the blessing made to our father Abraham, that all nations would be sprinkled with his blood,that all nations might partake the blessings pertaining to Israel. TRULY GENTILES REPRESENT THE MERCY OF A LOVING GOD, THAT WOULD BRING THE RESTORATION OF HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL AND IN TURN THROUGH ISRAEL BRING THE RESTORATION OF ZION UPON THIS EARTH. WE ARE FOR EACH OTHER!! woundedwarrior
woundedwarrior Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 From the parable of the tame olive tree and the wild olive tree.The Lord God Knowing the nature of his children, warned them of being trampled by other nations and eventually bringing destruction upon themselves.He prepare a plan, to bring restoration the natural tree (tamed olive tree or Israel) because of his great mercies and love for his children.The grafting in of wild branches of the wild olive tree (gentiles) to the natural tree (house of Israel) was for the soul purpose of sparing the natural tree or tame olive tree ( Israel)because the Lord once delighted in the exceedingly good fruit it produced.The Lord also removed branches ( remnants of the house of Israel) and planted them in many parts of the world. Many of the branches produced delightful fruit.After a time and season the grafted in wild branches began to over grow and weakened the roots of the tamed olive tree, so the lord began to once again restore or graft in the natural branches to the tamed olive to tree.GENTILES were grafted in by way of the blood of Ephraim. The fulfilment of the blessing made to our father Abraham, that all nations would be sprinkled with his blood,that all nations might partake the blessings pertaining to Israel. TRULY GENTILES REPRESENT THE MERCY OF A LOVING GOD, THAT WOULD BRING THE RESTORATION OF HIS PEOPLE ISRAEL AND IN TURN THROUGH ISRAEL BRING THE RESTORATION OF ZION UPON THIS EARTH. WE ARE FOR EACH OTHER!! woundedwarrior
janderich Posted September 28, 2013 Posted September 28, 2013 I know most of this thread is a bit old but I am intrigued by this scripture in 2 Ne 3. Verses 5-17 are almost the same words as JST Gen 50:24-38 and were given to Joseph of old. While in this thread there was argument about the point, it seems to me that these verses speak primarily of Joseph Smith. But starting in verse 18 it appears we have the Lord's word to Lehi, not Joseph of Egypt. Two pieces of evidence point to this:1. The end of the JST Gen 50 is equivalent to 2 Ne 3:17 perhaps indicating the end of Joseph's prophecy.2. The words in verse 18, "And the Lord said unto me also". Unto who? Unto Lehi. The word of the Lord to Joseph and Lehi can be distinguished because Lehi previously says, "For Joseph truly testified", and again, "Yea, Joseph truly said", and again, "And thus prophesied Joseph". But here it appears the Lord is speaking to Lehi. Now what is interesting is that Lehi's prophecy relates to his descendants directly and is much more concerned with the spokesman. The spokesman can be distinguished because he is mighty both in word and deed (v 24). But Joseph Smith is compared to Moses and it is said the Lord will, "not loose his tongue, that he shall speak much, for I will not make him mighty in speaking." I think for having translated the BofM, Joseph spoke very little about the contents of it. The spokesman will bring about a restoration. This spokesman may also be referred to in Isaiah 28:1-5 and D&C 85:7. 1
theplains Posted October 2, 2013 Posted October 2, 2013 I know most of this thread is a bit old but I am intrigued by this scripture in 2 Ne 3. Verses 5-17 are almost the same words as JST Gen 50:24-38 and were given to Joseph of old. While in this thread there was argument about the point, it seems to me that these verses speak primarily of Joseph Smith. According to the church's manual, there are 4 Josephs in the Book of Mormon. Regards,Jim
woundedwarrior Posted October 4, 2013 Posted October 4, 2013 The One Mighty & Strong is of the Seed Joseph Of Egypt from both Ephraim & Manasseh and also a descendant of Ishmael, father Abraham's first-born through the Ethiopian slave girl.
brightpath Posted October 6, 2013 Author Posted October 6, 2013 Gen 50 24-38, 2 Nephi 3 and 3 Nephi 21 talk about this individual. Jesus Christ himself told the Nephites about him when he visited America. Why? Because he will be a descendant from their seed. This prophet in the last days will cut off the unbelieving Gentiles and go through and destroy them. Read 3 Nephi 21 carefully
katherine the great Posted October 6, 2013 Posted October 6, 2013 The One Mighty & Strong is of the Seed Joseph Of Egypt from both Ephraim & Manasseh and also a descendant of Ishmael, father Abraham's first-born through the Ethiopian slave girl. I believe Hagar was Egyptian.
brightpath Posted October 7, 2013 Author Posted October 7, 2013 The prophet spoken of in 3 Nephi 21 is from the lineage if Issac not Ishmael/Hagar. He will come from the chosen lineage
speakzeasy Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 I tripped into this thread through a Google and find it interesting. Hope there is not a problem with me jumping in on this thread. Has it crossed someones mind that two people may be raised up, one as an heir to the blessings of Ephraim and the other as an heir to the blessings of Manasseh apart from the main stream idea of lineage? That is, these two people will be heirs to those blessing, except they are not connected into the lineage as we commonly think of someone being related to (descending from) Ephraim or Manasseh. In other words why is it that two people cannot be set apart for the purpose of receiving the blessings by an all knowing God and use those two people to do his work. The blessings of Ephraim taking the lead by receiving the Melchizedek Priesthood. Manasseh needs two inherit the promised land (of the Book of Mormon). Then the house of Israel can be gathered to Zion. The person that receives the blessings of Ephraim is the person that is being discussed. It will take two people establish Zion. It is simply a thought. 1
VideoGameJunkie Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 My 6th great grandfather was Joseph Smith's grandfather, does that mean I have a chance to lead?
ERayR Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 (edited) The lost 10 tribes are not among the Gentiles. Only God knows where they are. We only know they will come forth from the north after the New Jerusalem is built. Not correct. The parable of the olive trees tells you. Read Book of Mormon Jacob 5. Edited November 12, 2013 by ERayR
brightpath Posted November 23, 2013 Author Posted November 23, 2013 Yes correct, we need not look to Jacob 5 as it is open to interpretation. We need to look at the title page of the BofM. God address the 3 groups of people on earth. He does not address the 10 tribes in the title page. Also read 3 Nephi 21 and DC 132. These scriptures tell us the 10 tribes will appear from the north after the New Jerusalem is built.
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